PAULT Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 why is deer stalking so expensive need a lottery win with some people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Some people are greedy ? lol! Some people are very lucky n manage to get land that has deer on it that they can shoot for free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest topshot_2k Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 (edited) it depends on where and what you are stalking. some shoots/estates use it as extra income some farmers will let you shoot them for free Edited June 14, 2009 by topshot_2k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 if i had the tickets for it, i could shoot lots of deer.i have loads on my farms the farmer wants rid of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 if i had the tickets for it, i could shoot lots of deer.i have loads on my farms the farmer wants rid of them. Get the variation in then good tasting meat imho learn too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 mossy835 sent you a pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 mossy835 sent you a pm. Yeah, just think how much money you could make here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAULT Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 you have pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 i just like shooting with the shotguns,and rabbits with the rimmy, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave dog Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Bigthug87 hit it on the head treat, greed. With ever bigger popualtions of deer on the rise, grovenment is stable of panic about what to do or is it all hype by a few to justifiy high cost of stalking. If i were allowed to take the deer from where i shoot. I would happliy share with poeple who could be trusted. But a few want all so the rest of us have naught. I can see why farmers, esates do it. But the truth is the few that have so much they shoot over, they can't shoot it or mange what they say they will do. In turn giving evey shooter/stalker/vermin control a bad name. If they could mange what they tell farmer they can do, they would need to sell stalking day or breaks to hit their cull records. But that life. The haves! and the have nots! Thge later which make up most of us here on the forum. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 supply and demand in combination with greed, well maybe greed is slightly too strong a word, but there are alot of folk who want to make money out of stalking you just need to look at the dedicated stalking forums and it is client this and client that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave dog Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Also find that alot of those sites don't go to much on people who do other froms of shooting other than stalking. A great deal of subbary of stalking, when its people like us who give them their bread and butter. Though out the year. Not just wanting that big trophy headed buck or stag. The rich from eruo land. Thats the real reason behind the supply & demand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubix Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 There are two things here: 1. Most stalkers don't pay, they shoot on the back of relationships with landowners/farmers they have built up over years, they help out with other tasks and keep foxes under control, they also often take others out for free. Read some of the forums referred to earlier and you'll see a lot of this. I can name a few stalkers on SD who do this. I even do it on occasion, but only with people I really know well. 2. Top end red/sika hill stalking - that's the whole highland/dartmoor/wherever experience you are paying for. Short answer on the 2nd case - it costs so much because shooters are prepared to out compete their fellow shooters and offer money for it. Dont criticise the owners (I know some who have a couple of local lads shooting and don't want to know about it when they are offered money for a lease) , criticise shooters who won't band together to bring prices down. It is greed, but greed for stalking not money, you'd barely believe some of the tricks some stalkers will pull to get stalking off other people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAULT Posted June 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 There are two things here: 1. Most stalkers don't pay, they shoot on the back of relationships with landowners/farmers they have built up over years, they help out with other tasks and keep foxes under control, they also often take others out for free. Read some of the forums referred to earlier and you'll see a lot of this. I can name a few stalkers on SD who do this. I even do it on occasion, but only with people I really know well. 2. Top end red/sika hill stalking - that's the whole highland/dartmoor/wherever experience you are paying for. Short answer on the 2nd case - it costs so much because shooters are prepared to out compete their fellow shooters and offer money for it. Dont criticise the owners (I know some who have a couple of local lads shooting and don't want to know about it when they are offered money for a lease) , criticise shooters who won't band together to bring prices down. It is greed, but greed for stalking not money, you'd barely believe some of the tricks some stalkers will pull to get stalking off other people. What tricks are they Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbruno Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 come hunt in Canada its probably cheaper from the sounds of things i had a PW member over here last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 come hunt in Canada its probably cheaper from the sounds of things i had a PW member over here last year It is quite cheap and a lot more relaxed than here too! Shooting is totally different in Canada, the freedom compared to what we are used to is just unbelievable. Shooting "Government land" is so simple. Just figure out the local rules, buy a tag and get out there in the thousands of square miles and find what's written on your tag! It's amazing! Put simply, drive up and down the miles of forest tracks until you spot a Deer, get out of the truck and shoot it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 There are two things here: 1. Most stalkers don't pay, they shoot on the back of relationships with landowners/farmers they have built up over years, they help out with other tasks and keep foxes under control, they also often take others out for free. Read some of the forums referred to earlier and you'll see a lot of this. I can name a few stalkers on SD who do this. I even do it on occasion, but only with people I really know well. 2. Top end red/sika hill stalking - that's the whole highland/dartmoor/wherever experience you are paying for. Short answer on the 2nd case - it costs so much because shooters are prepared to out compete their fellow shooters and offer money for it. Dont criticise the owners (I know some who have a couple of local lads shooting and don't want to know about it when they are offered money for a lease) , criticise shooters who won't band together to bring prices down. It is greed, but greed for stalking not money, you'd barely believe some of the tricks some stalkers will pull to get stalking off other people. Cubix, as an example and wearing my landlord's hat, I saw some pretty devious behaviour last year when seeking a stalking licensee for a local chunk of land. The landowner took the (correct) decision to award the rights to a Shot that I know to be scrupulously honest and a very safe pair of hands, rather than being swayed by the much higher bids offered by prospective tenants happy to tarnish other local stalkers' reputations. We also had a lot of interest from the lepers at the DI.... I heard some surprising accusations and fabrications. Not everyone who holds an FAC is an honest, fair and law-abiding fellow. Put simply, drive up and down the miles of forest tracks until you spot a Deer, get out of the truck and shoot it! Your stalking by Chevrolet sounds rather lacking in the physical extertion that makes UK stalking such fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 If you go for stalking ground on the open market .You will have to compete with all the other people who want it too . If you can afford it ,then you will get it ? A bit like E-bay really ! whats the problem ? (Remember though that the last people who had it probably shot the hell out of it before they left !!!) However ! If you go about it as Baldrick has mentioned you will probably end up with better ground and better shooting companions in the long run. If you have enough experience and get yourself about a bit .Other folk will soon see your not a headbanger and things may start to come your way . If you owned a piece of ground, how much experience do you think a guy should have before you let him loose with a big rifle ? That's not a trick question .But one that everyone who has deer to control has to ask themselves every time someone asks " can I go stalking ". If you want to shoot Bucks or Stags ,then its going to cost you a few bob . But if you are happy with Does and hinds during the winter ,you should find that more affordable . If you want to join a syndicate ,then fine because the cost is shared . If you want it for yourself ,the cost goes up. Do you need accompanied stalking , or are you experienced enough to stalk on your own . The list is endless ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Yeah, just think how much money you could make here Whats got you goat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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