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afternoon gents,

 

 

basicly ive got my lip pierced and also my ear which i have streched to 15mm

so now my stepdad wont take me to a driven shoot, even tho i managed a day with my girl friends dad on a local estate whaddon i think it was? and all the chaps thought it was great callin me metal micky and seeing if they could get a shotgun cart in my ear (20 fits good :yes:)

 

so would you let a person who looks like they fell in to a tackle box go shooting?

 

 

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With no offence intended, Stuart, conformity plays a big element in driven shooting and sport in general. If your stepfather spends more time obsessing (probably needlessly) about your piercings, than he does his shooting, he's bound to have a poor day as a Gun, and blame you for his performance.

 

But then you probably have a way to go with the metal until you look like this:

 

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I think it great that you can express yourself in that fashion, if you are expressing something, but those holes in your ears will never grow back and you will need some corrective surgery to fix that, but on a personal level? Its unfortunately true that others will judge you on how you look, and you are going to scare others as well.. That is just how it is..

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the older generation seem to have this idea that you have to conform to what they see as rules and codes for given situations.you wear this when doing that and that when doing this.you must look the same as everone else and act the same as everyone else.your seen as a threat,you don,t conform so you must be a trouble causer.you carry on doing your own thing bud.the world woud be a boring place if we were all the same.i,d take you shooting.......i,d even give you a 50yd head start. :yes:

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It seems to me that most of this type of thread are soon turned around to its tradition,its traditional to do this,its traditional to do that.Traditionally only the very rich shot pheasants or partridge because they were the only ones who could afford it,shooting game was banned on sundays because it was the only day a working man had off if he was caught with a pheasant he was doubly in trouble.traditionally pheasant and partridge are considered game, a game liscense was created so again the working man had to leave them alone or be done for poaching.Now that more people can afford to shoot pheasants some seem to want to look down on others that don't conform to tradition,well in the shooting world tradtion has done the working man no favors,so lets move on and realise we are diferent but should be able to get on

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It's tradition not to attend a funeral dressed as a clown.

 

I am amazed how any topic can be turned into ."class war".

 

De ja vu?

 

What about a non PC answer of I wouldn't take anyone who was not appropriately dressed because I would be embarassed.

 

It's not PC to say that you wouldn't go out with an ugly woman or one which weighted 30 stone, no matter how lovely the inner person. The nuts and bolts are, its embarassing.

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It's tradition not to attend a funeral dressed as a clown.

 

I am amazed how any topic can be turned into ."class war".

 

De ja vu?

 

What about a non PC answer of I wouldn't take anyone who was not appropriately dressed because I would be embarassed.

 

It's not PC to say that you wouldn't go out with an ugly woman or one which weighted 30 stone, no matter how lovely the inner person. The nuts and bolts are, its embarassing.

 

Thanks Mungler, that just about summs this one up for me.

 

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Ah so, respect as in respect for the quarry is not tradition either?

 

If you were going to meet the Queen at Buck House (assuming you are not a socialist who would take the opportunity to burn it down) would you wear a suit or would you go in something comfortable like joggies and trainers?

 

Again, what about a wedding? Ripped jeans and T-shirt?

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Mungler I believe respect is just that respect,I never had anyone to pass down shooting traditions as I'm the only that shoots in my family,but I still have respect for all I shoot.I jut feel the the word tradition is sometimes used by people as an excuse for not wanting to change and move on or admit that times have already changed.I've never met the queen but I've shook Prince Charles hand whilst performing my duy as a RNLI lifeboaman and I wore trouser and v neck jumper as I was reprsentin the RNLI I respectfully wore what they asked not because it was traditional to wear that.But when I get my MBE I promise to leave the matches at home :lol:

As for the weddings I've been to a mates in Turkey where I wore linen trousers and a short sleved shirt.On the other hand I've wore the full montie to another friends its about respecting thier wishes,and I honestly believe nothinng to do with tradition.

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I think it all comes down to the feelings of the people on the shoot, and your step father probably has a good idea of how these guys will feel.

 

I would take you shooting on our own, it wouldn't bother me at all. What you have to keep in mind is that the old guys on this shoot may not like someone with your appearance turning up on their day. Some people are very formal and it's a pretty set dress code. It's all part of the day for some folk. I'm sorry to say it but if the way you look goes against the grain with the other guns you should not go. You may have equal rights to everyone else and you're probably a great bloke, but if you make the other guns uncomfortable then you are spoiling their day. It's unfair for you to expect them to put up with something they don't like so you can enjoy yourself. There's only one of you remember :lol:

 

Can you not hide it somehow (shove a plaster over it and say you stabbed it on a branch when you were out shooting!)and remove the lip stud for the day?

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thats what i do i hve these retainers which are clear plastic studs which are invisibale from a meter or 2 just looks like a spot and my hair covers my ears anyway

 

i can see what you mean by traditon and the formal dress code but like everyone on the shoot knows me well we all get alone ive helped the keeper all this year and last even took his daughter to get her lip done ><

 

 

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i no a guy who is a member of a huge and very exclusive shoot in season and he is a tattooist , and is covered and i mean covered lips neck cheek hands every part of his body and he was alowed in no worries he dont get looked down on people just take him for who he is really nice chap just covered in tattoos , i am in the process of getting my arm covered half way there now and ould be disgusted if i got turned away for having tattoos or peircings

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Shoots tend to be social events: if you can find one where all the Guns have bolts through their necks or spiders web tattoos across their faces, join it, you'll be at home.

 

I presume your step father's Shoot is full of normal people who probably have shared interests excluding self mutilation.

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