abiteachuck Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Hi, Ive just got a new crow shoot on a animal food farm and when I say there a lot I mean a lot , I have some vips 36gram 5s but they are a bit to good for crows, also I have a lot of 28gram 7 1/2s which I use for clays are they any good and up to what range. Thanks Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 (edited) crows are'nt generally hard to bring down and the 7.5 's that you mention will do the trick at a medium range.If theres a really large flock then the chances are that the're Rooks as crows only gather in large flocks when the weather turns bad-generally they remain solitary.The biggest problem i think you'll find is that the things are so ruddy smart-the crows in particular.If you can get inside buildings and the birds are using a few key routes to gain access then you might be better off with a decent airgun.If you can pin them to one specific spot then you might be lucky and have a good day or two but they learn real quick.Decoys outside might work but they have to be good as crows have superb eyesight and because of this your hide/camouflage will need to be perfect-it might even be worth trying to find a position where you can shoot with the sun behind you as crows seem to be affected by the sun quite badly.I have found that ,once in a while, you find a situation where corvids become less wary than normal and behave like kamikaze's-if you get such an opportunity then make the most of it and show no quarter-such times are few and far between.As for range-35 yards max in my opinion with at least 1/2 choke -good luck. Edited September 10, 2009 by bruno22rf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerseaDavid Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 I always use 5-6 shot 32 grams on crows. The Eley HP pigeon cartridges work well on them. If you are shooting them quite close (up to 30 yards) with tight chokes I would say that the 7 1/2's should work but I would not shoot them much past that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Hell yeah, I have got a few 24gr 9's if you want to use them. This is meant to be sarcastic. It is about time people on this forum started to be responsible and use the correct type of load for what they are shooting rather than whatever they have kicking around in the garage. Use a decent 30 or 32g load of 6's for crows, as you should for pigeons as well. It doesn't matter a **** if you wing a clay, but you are after a clean as possible kill when shooting live quarry. Crows may still only a pest but they deserve the same respect that a pheasant, partridge or duck would get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robalex Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Use a decent 30 or 32g load of 6's for crows, as you should for pigeons as well. It doesn't matter a **** if you wing a clay, but you are after a clean as possible kill when shooting live quarry. Crows may still only a pest but they deserve the same respect that a pheasant, partridge or duck would get. Agreed. Hit them hard and hit them often Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyboots Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 agree 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhunter Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 I'll 3rd that. Or is it 4th Anyway, I agree GH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe312 Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 as anything thats living a bit of respenct is required and a clean kill is ideal. my experance of crow is there hard ba57ards. personal i would stick with 5 or 6's load 30-36g and not drop below. a good pigeon cartridge is enough never used clay cartridges on anything but clays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killjoy Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 I use 24 grm 7.5 on pigeons loads of times, kill cleanly so whats the problem, learn to shoot with what you have got, place the patten in the right place and they will kill everytime, i would have no hasitation in using 28grm 7.5's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 I knew sooner or later someone would harp on about using 7.5's of pigeons. It has absolutely nothing to do with knowing how to shoot, it is about ensuring a clean kill every time. Now you cannot garantee a centre of pattern shot every single time you pull the trigger so why don't you edge your bets and use an appropriate shot size. If you can garantee a centre of pattern shot everytime you are either George Digweed (And he has been known to miss ) or you are a fool and a liar Why do you think that most cartridge manufacturers load game and pigeon cartridges with 5's and 6's? Maybe it is because they have more of that shot than anythiing else. Or Maybe that is because that is the prefered and recomended shot size to carry enough kinetic energy to ensure a clean kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killjoy Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Doesnt mean to say that a person using 5's or 6's can get a centre of pattern shot everytime either does it??? Anyone shooting is going to miss / wing birds occassionally, its unfortunate but it does happen. And it doesnt mean i use them specifically for pigeon as i buy D&J 32grm 6's for pigeon and crows, but have used 24grm 7.5 and would do again if i had to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 i use 28 grams 7/12 on pigeons and crows, all the time with good results never use any thing eles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe312 Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 Each to the own but i like to give me the best chance of a clean kill and i personal think only 6's or above can do that. if you can do it with 7.5 good luck to you. You can if you wish kill a fox with a .22lr but would it be the round you'd pick to do the job? i wouldn't but Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huey Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 I must say I agree with MC. 7.5 28g's are okay at 25 - 30 yards if you hit them clean however shot sizes 6 and above are less forgiving if you dont hit em with the full pattern and will maintain their energy out to 40 yards+. Personally I find 5 30/32gs are spot on for crows as they kill them clean every time; even out at range where the currious crow often lingers before moving closer to carrion or deeks! Huey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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