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Who needs enemies when shooting sports have friends like you. I happened to have several Iranian friends at school, they were moderate, well behaved and pacifists. Are they rag heads as well because of their ethnic descent or religion?

 

I don't know, I don't think Iranians are classified as rag heads. Indeed, all the Iranians I know are all chemists and rather pleased not to be in Iran.

 

Incidentally, I have never met anyone from Afghanistan called Terry.

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thought it was also to standerdise the round size,nato rounds.the americans had problems with each branch of there forces using different calbres.

 

Mate, the Americans have problems spelling the word colour, so picking a calibre is going to take ages :hmm:

 

Iranians? I work with an Iranian guy. Nice chap. Moans about the bosses all the time. His biggest gripe about Iran, is that a lot of the historical buildings are being flattened by the government.

 

 

 

 

 

FACT: Dogs cannot look upwards. ;)

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If you zoom right in and look closely at the full screen image, his index finger actually looks like a very thin butt plug.

 

...Pass me my leather jacket.

 

HOW did you even notice that?! :hmm:

 

a donkey can see all 4 of it's feet at the same time

 

and when hit with a .223 a rabbit can see its 4 paws, its tail and its ears all at the same time ;)

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Bit more on expanding ammo if any bodies interested used by the former Blackwater army for hire.

They still use them, they've just changed their name so they can carry on working in Iraq after they were banned after being found guilty of murdering civilians.

 

1-shot killer. This 5.56mm round has all the stopping power you need ? but you can-t use it. Here-s why: By John G. Roos Special to the Times

 

 

Ben Thomas and three colleagues were driving north out of Baghdad in an SUV on a clear mid-September morning, headed down a dirt road into a rural village, when gunmen in several surrounding buildings opened fire on them.

In a brief but intense firefight, Thomas hit one of the attackers with a single shot from his M4 carbine at a distance he estimates was 100 to 110 yards.

 

He hit the man in the buttocks, a wound that typically is not fatal. But this round appeared to kill the assailant instantly.

 

?It entered his butt and completely destroyed everything in the lower left section of his stomach ... everything was torn apart,¦ Thomas said.

 

Thomas, a security consultant with a private company contracted by the government, recorded the first known enemy kill using a new ? and controversial ? bullet.

 

The bullet is so controversial that if Thomas, a former SEAL, had been on active duty, he would have been court-martialed for using it. The ammunition is ?nonstandard¦ and hasn-t passed the military-s approval process.

 

?The way I explain what happened to people who weren-t there is - this stuff was like hitting somebody with a miniature explosive round,¦ he said, even though the ammo does not have an explosive tip. ?Nobody believed that this guy died from a butt shot.¦

 

The bullet Thomas fired was an armor-piercing, limited-penetration round manufactured by RBCD of San Antonio.

 

A new process

 

APLP ammo is manufactured using a so-called ?blended-metal¦ process, said Stan Bulmer, president of sales and manufacturing for Le Mas Ltd. of Little Rock, Ark. Le Mas is the distributor of RBCD ammo.

 

Various bullet types made by RBCD are designed for different effects, Bulmer said.

 

The frangible APLP ammo will bore through steel and other hard targets but will not pass through a human torso, an eight-inch-thick block of artist-s clay or even several layers of drywall. Instead of passing through a body, it shatters, creating ?untreatable wounds.¦

 

Le Mas gave Thomas a small number of APLP rounds after he contacted the company.

 

After driving off their attackers, Thomas and his colleagues quickly searched the downed enemy fighter for items of intelligence value. They also took time to examine the wound.

 

?There-s absolutely no comparison, whatever, none,¦ to other wounds he has seen from 5.56mm ammo, Thomas said in a telephone interview while on home leave in Florida.

 

He said he feels qualified to assess a bullet-s effects, having trained as a special-operations medic and having shot people with various types of ammo, including the standard-issue green tip and the Black Hills Mk 262, favored by spec-ops troops.

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