garyb Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 How do you leave your rifle setup whilst foxing / stalking / bunny bashing - be it on foot or from a vehicle ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 I have voted other as it was blatantly obvious you wouldn't put the way I do it. I always carry a gun (Rifle or shotgun) with either the mag in and open or loaded and open unless crossing an obstacle and then it is unloaded, mag out and if I am with someone else it will be shown to be clear before passing it across. In the same way when target shooting when the detail is finished and all shooters have ceased firing the bolt is removed and the rifle is shown to the firer next to you to check it is clear before placing a breech flag in the chamber. The gun is only made ready to fire when a shot is to be taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted July 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Do you hand feed it Martin, to be able to leave it loaded yet open ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 What? By loaded I mean either the mag in or cartridges in the chamber, but of course you knew that after yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hambone Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Magazine loaded, bolt closed, no round chambered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 To clarify, I carry mine loaded safety on when on foot, ALWAYS unloaded to climb fences/into a high seat/in a vehicle (unless about to take a shot) Before we get into the next can of worms, muzzle up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 As the other thread was removed I will add again. many moons ago on the DSC1 course we were taught to stalk with the round chambered and the safty on, rifle was unloaded when crossing streams / fences or going up and down to high seats. I would find it very difficult to stalk with out the round chambered, most deer at close stalking range will be off at the sound of a bolt closing on a round. even the safty catch can at times spook them. On the other hand I agree with MC that his way is the safest, but I would find it impractible. but good to have the debate doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 If someone has the time and inclination they might want look up the BASC guidelines, when we stalked with them in Arran we were clearly told only the lead rifle (we stalked in pairs) was to be carried loaded. As Doc has said theory and practise are two different things, leaving the bolt at home is the safest thing to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonT Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 (edited) Round chambered, bolt closed, safety on and occasionaly check the safety. Also be muzzle aware. I carry mine with muzzle down, but that is what ever you feel comfortable with Edited July 27, 2010 by SimonT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 To clarify, I carry mine loaded safety on when on foot, ALWAYS unloaded to climb fences/into a high seat/in a vehicle (unless about to take a shot) Before we get into the next can of worms, muzzle up... unless it's raining, then the t8 acts like a funnel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Magazine loaded, bolt closed, no round chambered. Yep, and as doc said, it has cost me deer, but im not comfortable with a round chambered,Im useually with someone and I insist they carry thier gun the same. If im on my own, i have chambered and then put on the safety...strictly on my own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 I carry mine muzzle down but put tape over the mod to stop water etc getting into the mod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyCM Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 I believe leaving the bolt open in the field to be asking for trouble !!! If we are talking about stalking / foxing / rabbiting and such like there is the odd twig, grass, rain, dew (if you go out early & late) and at the moment dusty harvest fields to negotiate. Getting any of that stuff up your spout (in front of a chambered round, if you get that far....could be highly dangerous. You can tell the pw members that take a gun into the field a mile off. Cheers AndyCM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 I believe leaving the bolt open in the field to be asking for trouble !!!And having it closed on a round isn't then? If we are talking about stalking / foxing / rabbiting and such like there is the odd twig, grass, rain, dew (if you go out early & late) and at the moment dusty harvest fields to negotiate. Getting any of that stuff up your spout (in front of a chambered round, if you get that far....could be highly dangerous. You can tell the pw members that take a gun into the field a mile off. :yes: Cheers AndyCM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted July 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Keep the idea's coming chaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 For me it depends what I'm doing. Laying up with the FAC Air, it will be cocked and safety on, the LR is usually bolt back (seems to keep the mod cleaner) while laying but mag out and bolt forward if I'm moving from one place to another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted July 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 With at least 10 replies in support of the "Round chambered, Bolt closed, safety on" method.. The next question is... How many negligent discharge's have you had whilst using this method ? For me... None, on any of mine or indeed friends rifles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 Have to admit I have had one, scarred the **** out of me doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonT Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 With at least 10 replies in support of the "Round chambered, Bolt closed, safety on" method.. The next question is... How many negligent discharge's have you had whilst using this method ? For me... None, on any of mine or indeed friends rifles. None, and again friends rifle=none Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 I suppose you could tick all the boxes in the poll depending on what you're doing at the time. If I have a rifle pointed in a safe direction, squeaking-in or sniping bunnies, the gun is ready to fire. If I'm walking or driving from one area to another, rifle is bolt closed on an empty chamber (Magazine in) and safety on. If i'm walking about with rifle slung, but expecting a target to pop-up, same as above. Over obstacles, gun is always unloaded, bolt open. I won't hand a rifle to someone else if the bolt is closed. I don't do much deer stalking, so the noise of opening and closing of a bolt isn't too much of a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted July 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 (edited) I've only seen / heard of one ND, and that was from a friends rifle. Strangley enough it was with the bolt BACK. As he pushed it forward to load one it went off. Luckily he always safe loads, by pointing it at the floor 1st. Edited July 27, 2010 by garyb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 For me... None, on any of mine or indeed friends rifles. None - ever, but I am extremely fussy who I shoot with. I have been shot at twice in the same year, once with a shotgun beating, and once with a 30-06 boar shooting So my advice would be hang arround with very bad shots your chances of survival are greatly increased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted July 27, 2010 Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 mine was user error, I had not put the safty on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted July 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 None - ever, but I am extremely fussy who I shoot with. I feel somewhat honoured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted July 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2010 mine was user error, I had not put the safty on Where was the loud end pointing Doc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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