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£100 a day is a good rate for casual work. I am surprised no takers. When I started clearing this place seven years ago I used to go into Bristol) to collect workers a Pole and a Bulgarian to help with the clearance and was paying £50 a day. I was trying for 6 months to get a tree surgeon for some work for the last year. I had 2 no shows and two who came and then did not quote and finally paid £1200 for 2 1/2 days work. Still it will be a lot better when we are out of the EU.

Had to look that one up 🙂 My thoughts entirely violence breeds more of the same. I am all for a strict enforcement regime but it has to be backed up with a comprehensive package of support to avoid more of the same and offer an alternative future.

Guns in school next And i would agree so lets offer an alternative.

Your right they do not see the problem but you wont solve a fundamentally complex problem problem with a simplistic knee jerk unfounded reaction. Its just not that simple. For many its the only way they know. We have tried the same old stuff but it's been short term, uncoordinated, politically driven and not comprehensive. It's not about one thing first it's about all actions together. It has to be carrot and stick, both properly funded and working hand in hand. You can't fix stupid but a stupid knee jerk reaction will create the space for a lot more stupid.

Fortunately there is not the political will to see such draconian measures put in place. Stopping law abiding gun owners holding pistols does not stop gun crime. Why would laws restricting the use of guns and knives have any lasting effect on those that do not obey the laws? Whilst in theory it might be possible to achieve draconian enforcement the reality of this on our liberty would be disproportionate to the result and that's before we consider cost. I can see it now heavy handed institutional racist attacks on parts of the community causing riots and civil unrest. Out comes the army or some similar heavy handed tactic and before we know we have large scale unrest and we still leave the underlying causes unaddressed.

Nope on its own it wont work. Get one and another two come to the funeral. Clear the knives and out will come the forks. You don't cure a disease by tackling the symptoms. Surely we have been trying the same old same, old stuff long enough to learn that we need a concerted effort all working together and put some long term resource behind the problem.

I am not in favour of redistributing wealth but I don't believe the growth of exclusion can continue unchecked. The problem of exclusion results from a combination of many social and economic factors. If you are poor it does not mean that you will resort to criminal behavior but you are far more likely to suffer from social exclusion if you are poor. In the same way you will not solve knife crime by concentrating efforts on those with a knife but have to tackle the wider social and economic causes of the behavior.

Fight a threat with more threat and then maybe you end up with armed teachers and Guantanamo bay. I don't disagree that we need a balance. But as the rich get richer and the poor get poorer the rich will have to apply more and more controls as the number of people that fall into the excluded category grows and grows. It's simply a matter of time. The trick is for the rich to make sure that it's the majority that remain on it's side and that the balance does not tip. Maybe as the west gets poorer and our dynasty declines it's inevitable that we will be faced with radical social change.

We could afford it with a proper taxation. Start by collecting more tax fairly with a properly resourced inland revenue. As an example if i were an employed high earner on £150k I am taxed at a marginal rate of 45%. I have no personal allowance as over £100k it drops by a £ for every £ earnt my pension contribution with tax relief is reduced from £40k to 10k. If I am self employed I can be paid a salary that has no tax, supplemented with profits that are taxed at 18% and take home twice the money of my employed friend for the same level of gross income. There are many people self employed earning a top line income over £150k that could be taxed. The black market trade in goods and services for cash should be taxed. International company taxation is woeful.

Maybe continue with the sticking plasters, the annual budget, the shifting political priorities, the competing objectives and the spiraling costs.

? Juries do not decide the sentence in the UK. You could also have a two tier system where when a court decides a life time sentence is appropriate then the case is picked up by a higher court. That court could look at the case and evidence and opportunity for rehabilitation at some future date. If it decided that the evidence was overwhelming and rehabilitation at some date was not going to happen then the death penalty could be applied. Creating a second step safeguard.

You start by saying the problem has built up over a long term so will not be addressed by a short term fix and will require concerted effort and resources. The problem is one of education, opportunity, role models, health, discrimination, housing, drugs, social care, poverty, employment, policing.... the list goes on. You bring all of the agencies responsible for these elements together and you directly manage their activities in regard to how they relate to the target audience. You have resources available to supplement the agencies day jobs to enhance the way that they tackle and engage with this exclusion agenda. They may never have had a 'real' job and that may be true of their parents and friends and the world within which they operate. Is a habitual criminal born or made? If you believe they are born that way then you would look for a medical cure, if you believe they are made then you look to tackle the causes.

Start with this. Imagine a world where your role model is violence and gang culture. Where the only respect you have is from others with the same values. In this alternative world you can create a life for yourself in a world that does not understand and appreciate the hopelessness of your situation. This is the reality that many of these youngsters face. Often born into families where there is a history of twilight underworld of crime going back for generations, or where they are marginalised through an institutional prejudice that will not allow them to break through into the world within which we live. To deal with these issues requires a holistic and co ordinated multi agency approach, that has long term funding to address ingrained cultural issues. Alternatively, continue with short term sticking plasters, blame youth, parents, immigrants, minorities or whatever and continue to see these problems into the future. As the rich get richer the poor get poorer.

? if its not friday night i don't know where its from. There are so many on phone i just posted the two at the end lol. Ah yes I see just realised its not even your rifle don'y know who's that is In that case I only have one pic from Friday.

Pictures from last night.

I am sure he would post it.

lol that was quality telly in those days

LOL i forgot about them.

It's pretty sad. I cant help thinking that those of us born in the 60's had the best of it all.

I think it goes far beyond the state of mind stuff. With the internet everything we do and everything we think becomes so much more visible. It's difficult to avoid rational argument about so many things, be that causing offence to demonsrating hate, to hunting to fast cars to eating meat. It is that runaway train of doing right and good that is at the same time an infringement of liberty.

There is continuous talk of a Severn Barrage. That would make for one truly awesome canoe slalom course 🙂 There are also lots of proposals for using tidal currents for generation. Do you know the 'Falls of Lora'at Connel. On spring tides the water through there is like paddling the Zambezi.

I guess it depends on where and how it was posted. If they posted it on the Grenfell facebook page (i guess there is one? ) then I would imagine there is a case to be made.

If you go for .243 and you have deer on your mates ground it's ok. If you want it just for fox then it may help if you intend to shoot deer later and dont want to have too many rifles.Otherwise how will you justify .243 rather than something like .223. When I first went for my c/f police insisted on a c/f course first. Cost me £100 but was well worth the money even though I thought it an unfair request.

Exactly. Point was made on the radio that burning Guy Fawkes could be seen as a hate crime against Catholics. We need to be careful where we go with this stuff however distasteful. If it was posted on the net for others to see then maybe there is a crime there if designed to shock and offend?