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If you use Laboklin for PRA testing & use their option instead of the Opitgen version of the test I think it saves you £40 but the results can't be displayed by the KC for copyright reasons. However if you give the results to the KC, if the bitch is clear & you breed to a clear dog the KC will display the pups as being hereditary clear.

That's 4 IGL winners out of the breed pool including & since Paddy.

Derrity Mustard has won a 2 day Open Trial, He's a son of IGL winner FTCH Farmclose Paddy. Paddy was a CNM carrier, so all those that think that cutting carriers out of the breed program dream on. The bitch goes back to winners on all lines.

315 Montesa, don't compete these days but it's good for keeping fit.

They were 12 weeks last Sunday. Jenny is a bit of a porker but I suspect she'll change now that I can get them out & about.

The 3 pups that I'm running on. Front to back, Martha, Otis & Jenny.

I didn't manage to go this year at all as their dates always clashed with commitments to other moors. Grouse have been patchy on this side of Yorkshire, some moors had very few yet neighbours had bumper years.

I might have been picking up the day you were at Caldberg, it's a lovely little moor.

I was with someone today that has 2 dogs for sale. I'm not 100% but I think they're by Waysgreen Apollo who is an Irish FTCH out a decent bitch. If I've got the right litter they'll be 14 months old & I believe that they have had hips / elbows tested. I didn't ask a price. If it's any good pm for details, note that they're in North Yorkshire.

I assume that's one on facebook, I find it odd that the pedigree of the parents isn't shown but grand parents is. You pays your money & takes your chances but I'd have thought a similar age dog from health tested stock could be found for this sort of money.

Sire has had his hips & elbows tested, he's also had an annual eye test from a BVA panel vet. He's had no DNA testing. Mother isn't health tested for anything.

IGL winners 2005 - 2014 inclusive, 9 different dogs, only 3 are out of a bitch with a stud book number, none are out of a Champion bitch.

i can point you in the direction of a dog, it's the colour that folk lovingly refer to as a FRL. It's health tested, hips are nowt flash but it's cnm & pra clear. He's got his own website, Champ Dogs page & is a regular on pets for homes. I bet it's never been on a shoot in it's life & wouldn't know pheasant even if one ran up & kicked it up the ****. The health test results of his progeny make sorry reading, there's not that many tested but the hip scores resemble an American Football team squad numbers. This dog has had more studs than the last 5 IGL winners, it's 7 now & I bet by the time it's finished it'll give Pocklea Remus a run for his money.

Funnily enough my bitch probably gets her status from the same FTCH dog that was never tested.

I've just taken a litter from a PRA carrier bitch that's my best worker, I actually tested her after she whelped as I felt it dishonest to sell pups & then test the ones I'd kept. I've kept 3 pups back & I'll test them if I breed from them. I had little difficulty in selling the remaining pups as I sold them at what was a sensible price. It would seem that trialers will put pedigree before health tests as 3 of the pups I sold went to competitive homes.

That's not what I posted / meant. To get a dog with a good health test history it will have strong trial blood in it, very few people other than the trial fraternity have tested their dogs regularly. Most pups advertised will have one or two generations of testing if you're lucky. It's a bit odd but the spaniel testing is the other way round with very few of the trial dogs being tested, everyone seems frightened of the skeletons in the closet, which are almost certainly there. i think a dogs coat is more environment than breeding, if a dog truly lives outside it'll be considerably rougher coated than if it lives in a modern kennel block or in the house. Mine all live in doors & they don't seem to be fazed by a days picking up in the cold & rain. The dog jackets, choke chains & training vests, it's all a bit of monkey see, monkey do.

These two things are tied together. To get a dog with good health testing provenance it almost certainly will be from trial lines. A lot of the fashionable so called red breeding that's about has little or no health testing in the lines.

He's not doing that as a memory as he hunts out from being cast off, you don't really want him to be doing that. You need to do some work with him on tracks, start short & simple before doing longer retrieves. Make it simple by making the retrieve easy to see & he won't have to hunt for it, work up the distance & then to make it more difficult put the retrieve in longer grass on the wind side of the track, as he runs the track he'll scent them dummy. I'd also be looking to cast the dog off from heel, at this stage you're looking to set him up for doing blinds, you're looking to create a drill where you line him up & say go, the dog will go whether he's seen a dummy thrown or not. Dog looks like he's up for it, he comes back with at a decent pace which is nice to see.

He's here to go picking up. Also if he's good enough I'll give him a spin in working tests & then see what happens. There's 3 of the pups gone to Trialing homes & so it'll be interesting to see how they go.

All pups that were available are now sold.

One bitch pup still available for sale.

We always put a box in with our pups, they love playing King of the Hill.

This little lad will be staying with us, he's not got a name as yet. Still trying to decide which of his seven sisters will stay, I've been told that all isn't an option.

Cheers, I don't really want any of them to go & i can't make my mind up who's staying apart from the only dog pup

Just to clarify, the bottom picture is of the Sire Tweedshot Toto. The mother of the litter is Twiggy, the light coloured bitch in the picture above that one. Edit to add, I'm near Scotch Corner just off the A66 / A1 This is the pedigree