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  1. The chokes on my hatsan escort keep coming loose after a few shots. It’s the standard extended chokes that are in the gun. Any tips or advice on the issue? Thanks
  2. 2 x used mobil victory extended chokes 1/4 + 3/4 £30 posted
  3. Hi i have some chokes for sale that came from my beretta and franchi guns, they are all used except the light full extended victory choke which has never been used. top to bottom........light full victory extended.....full victory extended.......1/4 flush.....1/2 flush......3/4 flush...all measured with calipers for a std 18.4 bore. extended chokes £15. flush chokes £10. post £4 for 1 or 2 or £4.50 for 3 or more. £55 posted for the lot. also got an extra 3 x 1/2 chokes too (not inc in the £55 price). all the best stu
  4. 2 x 1/4 + 1/2 mobil choke sets. £23 posted per set.
  5. 10 mobil chokes for sale..... all good used condition and undamaged. Measured with a caliper to get the choking correct within 2 or 3 thou. Bore taken as 0.725"/18.4mm so the chokings are right for this bore size and may not match up with the markings. 1/3/5/7 are marked as steel proof, the others i cannot vouch for but should be good for standard steel. 1/2/3+4 are 1/2 choke 0.705. 5 is 3/4 choke 0.695. 6+7 are 1/4 choke 0.715.all All +/- 3 thou. All from various guns i have had...beretta/franchi and will fit others that take mobil chokes. 3 x Victory extended, 7 x standard chokes. Nr 2 benelli branded. Std chokes £15 posted, Victory chokes £22 posted. Bankk transfer prefered, but open to options. or £100 takes the lot
  6. Have a set of Teague 12g Beretta chokes. They are in excellent condition and come in tubes £100 for the set posted. 1/4 1/4 1/2 3/4
  7. For sale 1x light mod briley silver ported 1x Imp Mod briley silver ported both Mobil fit, used twice, ended up returning the shotgun so no longer required. £40 each
  8. Hypothesis The Fiocchi ‘Pigeon 32’ cartridges that I have been using appear to cause excessive wounding. Earlier investigatory testing on the pattern plate (at various ranges with various chokes) showed these cartridges behaved erratically; the pellets tended to stick together with a lot less pellets than expected hitting the target. Better shooting performance could be achieved by trying two readily available brands and undertaking pattern testing in the method described by John Harradine for the BASC, June 2013. To provide some context, here are some example results from earlier testing using a factory extended 1/2 choke (20 thou) at 40 yards: Fiocchi Pigeon 32g – 98 Eley Pigeon HV 32g - 168 Gamebore Clear Pigeon 32g - 171 Desired average – 140 Note: Based on this earlier testing, I invested in a 3/8 choke (15 thou). Method Shoot the pattern plate then draw a 30 inch circle over the centre of the pattern. The goal is to achieve the minimum average pellet count in a 30 inch circle, at the desired range, with at least 10 pattern tests per cartridge. For more detail on the method see: https://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/340965-basc-pattern-test-we-need/ (I can’t find a copy of the original document) My specification is: Range = 40 yards Minimum average pellet count in 30 inch circle = 140 (for pigeon) Do no exceed 140 by too much as shooting is expected to be at 25 to 40 yards and the pigeon must be edible. In addition to the method described in the link, I have created two extra sets of data in an attempt to provide indicative results on how erratic a given cartridge can be. This is because its difficult if not impossible to consistently judge the evenness of a pattern with the human eye, but it is possible to collect data on the perceived errors in a pattern. Multiple Hits (MH) – This is the number of times pellets appear to have hit the same place at the same time; 2 hits in the same place gives a hole that looks like a figure of eight. Number of Pellets Together (NPT) – the total number of pellets that appear to have hit the same place at the same time; the sum of the pellets counted in multiple hits. For example: A pair of pellets hitting one place and a pair hitting another would be MH=2 NPT=4. Note: I have no way of knowing if 2 pellets did hit the target at the same time. Its possible one pellet was at the front of the shot cloud and one at the back. I do think its more likely that the pellets become stuck together in the barrel. Multiple Hits can be identified by multiple uniform curves around a hole in the target, this can be can be as high as 5. Its possibly why sometimes your quarry appears to have been ‘hit hard’ - it got it by 5 pellets in almost the exactly same place at the same time. Apparatus Gun: Browing Maxus, 26 inch barrel, Briley Helix Hunter ‘Mid-Range’ Choke (15 Thou) Medium: Lining paper from B&M Bargains Target: Mk2 Portable Pattern Plate (patent pending) Specifications of Cartridges under test Fiocchi: ‘Pigeon 32’ - 32 gram - No. 6 - Fibre Wad Eley: ‘Pigeon HV’ - 32 gram - No. 6 - Fibre Wad Gamebore: ‘Clear Pigeon’ - 32 gram - No. 6 - Fibre Wad Results Testing of the Fiocchi cartridges was not continued due to obvious poor performance; its not worth the time or effort. Conclusion The Fiocchi cartridges under test were of exceptionally poor quality. The pellet count and spread of the pattern was poor. This accounts for the excessive wounding. I have cut open some cartridges and found all the pellets are all separated so large amounts of pellets must stick together in the barrel. Perhaps the lead is too soft and/or the diameter of the wad does not provide sufficient obturation. Both the Eley and Gamebore cartridges gave much better results than the Fiocchi. With a 15 thou choke, the Eley cartridges achieved the desired average pellet count without exceeding it too much. With a 15 thou choke, the Gamebore cartridges did not achieve the desired average pellet count; 17% less pellets in a 30 inch circle when compared with the Eley. The standard deviation for pellet count was significantly lower for the Eley cartridges; 14.43 compared with 18.21 for Gamebore. Therefore the Eley cartridges are more consistent when compared to the Gamebore cartridges. The Gamebore cartridges had on average 27% more Multiple Hits and a 37.55% higher Number of Pellets Together. This is more evidence of inconsistency from the Gamebore cartridges when compared to the Eley cartridges. The Gamebore cartridges would benefit from a 20 thou choke to increase the average pellet count, although it is highly unlikely that this would improve consistency. Just because the Gamebore cartridge is marketed well with a nicely printed box and celebrity endorsement… it doesn't mean its any better than the competition. Notes on the Efficacy of the Method I’m satisfied that 10 tests per cartridge gave meaningful average and standard deviation values for pellet count, MH and NPT. If I stopped at 5 tests per cartridge, the results for average pellet count would have still been accurate enough to reach a worthwhile conclusion, although the Standard Deviation for pellet count would have been a lot less accurate. Scores for the first 5 tests only would have been as follows: In future, I am unsure as to weather I would spend the time & effort on 10+ tests for each cartridge if there is an obvious trend emerging after 5 tests. FAQ Q: Why did you bother with all this!? A: I was interested in the real world effects of different chokes & cartridge combinations and whether or not these match up to the gut feelings & rules of thumb people like to iterate. Q: What have you learnt so far? A: So far I've found that even if you stick to the same loads at a similar price, the choice of cartridge is very important, more important than choice of choke. I’ve never heard anyone say that before. I thinks its generally assumed that ‘similar’ cartridges behave in a similar way, but they certainly don’t. Q: Would you do it again? A: Yes, I plan to do this two more times; once for game and once for clays. Q: Why did you choose a Briley Helix Hunter ‘Mid-Range’ Choke? A: Its a 3/8 choke (15 thou) which was my best guess to achieve the desired average pellet count, based on earlier testing. Its advertised as being optimum for 25 to 40 yards using lead shot. Its aftermarket & extended which should give more consistent results with a wide variety of loads when compared to factory Invector chokes (based on information from American writers such as Randy Wakeman). Most importantly, I think it looks good on the end of a semi-auto. Q: Any tips for conducting pattern tests? A: It’s actually difficult to hit a stationary target at 40 yards in a consistent manor with a shotgun. I think this is because you are not moving you body, your muscles are not offering much resistance to recoil forces that are far higher than most rifles. This can lead to excessive barrel flip and throw the centre of the pattern so far off that the result is unusable. I used a semi-auto, I imagine this effect can be far worse with a double barrel. To achieve a consistent result, I mark my point of aim 2 thirds from the top to the target rather than half way down. I’ve found its best to mount the gun slightly over the top of the target, pulling tightly into the shoulder with both hands, slowly lower the gun on to the point of aim while breathing out, stop when out of breath & at the point of aim then finally pull the trigger. Do not hold on the point of aim as there is a tendency to drift side to side. My Portable Pattern Plate is 40 x 40 inches, I recommend 50 x 50 inches to alleviate this problem.
  9. As per title Beretta Mobil flush 1/2 choke Excellent condition Also fits armsan a612 £15 Can post or collect from leyland lancashire
  10. Teague Super Extended Chokes for Miroku and Browning Not had a great deal of use, max. 500 shots I have 3 chokes: 1/4, 1/2, and 3/4 (I.CYL, MOD, I.MOD) Asking for £90 ono located in Chesterfield, Derbyshire S43 Contact me on 07426025685 for a faster response Thank You Dalton
  11. Teague 12g Browning Invector Plus extended chokes. Lightly used in very good condition.1/2 (modified)3/4 ((improved modified)Extra Full.£33 each including postage or £90 for all 3
  12. Set of 5 Teague invector plus flush fitting chokes. Sizes - Skeet, 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 and Full. All had very little use and in perfect condition. £100 + p&p
  13. For Sale 12ga Kicks High Flyer Inv+ choke in modified. To suit Winchester SX2, SX3, Browning Maxus etc etc This choke is as new, in excellent condition and comes with all the original packaging. I have fired exactly 11 cartridges through it, before it was cleaned and put away again. Cost £65 new, yours for £50 inc Royal Mail Special Delivery. Located on the Western Isles.
  14. Just got my wife a W&S 920K 20G for our 20th wedding anniversary and would like to put her extended chokes in for ease of cleaning, she does that herself and thinks it would be better to hand tighten than use a wrench. Any help / advice would be much appreciated, looked online but can't seem to find any info.
  15. Brand new never used fits A400 , 1301 SV10 and others 50mm extended full choke cost me £50 after £30 plus £3 post
  16. Got some of these left over from my MK38, all are like new, perfect and hardly used. Super Extended in 1/4 & 3/8 - Perfect combo for sporting clays! RRP £49.00 each - £65.00 the pair inc post ? (£68 inc PP) http://www.teaguechokes.com/browning-miroku-invector-plus-12g-super-extended Flush in Skeet and 1/4 - Perfect combo for skeet or sporting clays! RRP £35.00 each - £45.00 the pair inc post? (£47 inc PP) http://www.teaguechokes.com/browning-miroku-invector-plus-12g-flush First come first served, no offers thanks.
  17. Hi I have for sale a patternmaster code black duck choke tube. It's a Benelli/beretta mobile choke tube. Totally unused brand new in packet, please Pm £60
  18. 2x Briley Invector DS extended choke tubes to fit Browning 725 Black oxide colour/finish 3/8 (light modified) £35 each posted £60 pair posted Could meet at Nottingham and District Gun Club for collection if preferred. Pics to follow
  19. Browning Invector + Muller U3 Choke for sale £40 posted
  20. Guy i have a new, boxed and unused Teague Choke for 20g beretta/benelli/franchi/escort fit: Latest Super Extended 20g (TWENTY BORE ) 3/4 - improved modified (.605) TEAGUE choke I would have sent it back as it doesn't fit my benelli montefeltro but they wouldn't have it as apparently it was made specially for me It cost me £43 delivered so save yourself a tenner and let's say £33 posted Thanks, Richard Utting sharpshootinguk@gmail.com 07730396446
  21. The choke is no longed needed as I sold my Winchester SX3 a while ago. £20 Plus £4 postage if required - that would be for Recorded Delivery. Thanks
  22. I have this choke left over after selling my Winchester SX3. The choke is used but is in very good condition. £22 + £4 for Recorded Delivery if required. Thanks
  23. does choke really matter in shooting, whether it be clays, game.. is it something that should be considered seriously? will it affect performance?
  24. I just bought a silma shotgun multi chokes with 2 chokes however no choke key, will any choke key fit? And where do i get it from? - Thanks
  25. Used but in mint condition, Beretta 12G Optima Extended Choke - Light Modified (3/8) - Orange Banding includes choke tube as per attached photograph. £40.00 plus postage and packing.
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