Markio Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 As title really. Considering a change. So what Semi Auto can i get for around £300 with 3" chambers and takes high performance steel? Will the Berreta 30x or Remington 1100 do it? They seem to go for this money at varying conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J@mes Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 THE MIGHTY ESCORT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Markio Posted September 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 I've got a pump one of them. The idea is to replace that with something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 replace it with a mossberg 500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted September 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 replace it with a mossberg 500 That's not the ******* point and you know it! It all boils done to: i want a more suitable pigeon gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 (edited) http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...=100045&hl= and your point is...? :lol: Edited September 26, 2009 by babbyc1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted September 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...=100045&hl= and your point is...? :lol: Yeah, my point numb nuts, not yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Yeah, my point numb nuts, not yours. right simple question, you want brand new or second hand? theres plenty on guntrader, look - mossberg semi auto and beretta semi auto look pretty decent to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted September 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Second hand is fine, but also 3" and steel proof as my original post said. There's no need to live up the Irish stereo type babba, If you've got facts on the thread title then dive on in.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 (edited) tbh i cant help much, my experience with semis is very limited the only thing i can say is that apart from looking verrry nice, that mossberg semi *probably* would be fine with steel - my pumps are well over 10 yrs old each and theyre both proofed for 3" carts and steel shot, so i cant see mossberg making indestructible pumps then knocking out a semi that doesnt compare. plus i always thought older american guns (remi's, mossys, etc) could handle the heavier loads and steel, etc, better than their european equivalents, due to being used for hunting turkey, deer, etc. BUT i could be outstandingly wrong with all that i know theyre getting alot of bad press from some areas lately, but maybe a new escort semi would be something to look into - at least if its brand new there shouldnt be any questions over what it can handle or cant Edited September 27, 2009 by babbyc1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr salt Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 escort or browning hunter.(gold) its not really that clear with any beretta you are going to get for that money. (regards /steel shot) cheers scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Mark, I just bought a s/h Webley 810 3" chamber and proofed for steel, only £250. Not a bad gun, shoots ok and cycles most things. My Remi 1100 is not steel proofed but i think you'll find the Remi 11-87 has a 3" chamber and is proofed for steel. There are quite a few models about so best to check with seller first. The Mossberg s/a would fit the bill too. Obviously the trusty (?) Escort is cheap and should be plenty knocking about. The Beretta 301/2/3 are great guns, but as far as i know are not steel proofed. To be honest it depends on what cartridges you want to put through the gun. As long as you're not planning on using high performance steel you should be ok with most modern guns and restrict your choking to to no more than 1/2. It's certainly worth checking the proof markings on any gun you're interested in and reading up on whatever cartridges you intend to use to be on the safe side. If you want to use high performance wildfowl loads then best to get something proofed to 1370bar and stamped with the fleur de lys symbol. I've spent hours recently reding up on steel loads and proofing so if you want any more info let me know. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonySmith Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 THE MIGHTY ESCORT!!! I concur with the right honorable gentlemen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted September 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Mark, I just bought a s/h Webley 810 3" chamber and proofed for steel, only £250. Not a bad gun, shoots ok and cycles most things. My Remi 1100 is not steel proofed but i think you'll find the Remi 11-87 has a 3" chamber and is proofed for steel. There are quite a few models about so best to check with seller first. The Mossberg s/a would fit the bill too. Obviously the trusty (?) Escort is cheap and should be plenty knocking about. The Beretta 301/2/3 are great guns, but as far as i know are not steel proofed. To be honest it depends on what cartridges you want to put through the gun. As long as you're not planning on using high performance steel you should be ok with most modern guns and restrict your choking to to no more than 1/2. It's certainly worth checking the proof markings on any gun you're interested in and reading up on whatever cartridges you intend to use to be on the safe side. If you want to use high performance wildfowl loads then best to get something proofed to 1370bar and stamped with the fleur de lys symbol. I've spent hours recently reding up on steel loads and proofing so if you want any more info let me know. Hope this helps. Cheers Poontang. Spent a while looking into steel last year so comfortable with that aspect. I would want the option of high performance steel as what ever i get it will need to be an all-rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Franchi 612vs are a very good solid semi mate,3"magnum and suitable for steel shot,takes any cartridge,a very good hide gun,with secondhand models going for £200-£300 quid,well worth the money BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nial Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 Will the Berreta 30x or Remington 1100 do it? They seem to go for this money at varying conditions. I think the early 1100's were only chambered for 2 3/4" cartridges so they brought out the 11-87. Later 1100's also seem to be chambered for 3" and I presume are steel proofed. Nial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr salt Posted September 27, 2009 Report Share Posted September 27, 2009 poontang> reply was spot on. you wont go far wrong if you listern to that. cheers scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 get an escort semi mate can't go wrong with them i got rid of mine and regreted it ever since and there only about £350 new and they now come with 3 year warrenty instead of 1 so i was told by local rfd the other day not that any thing will ever go wrong with it if you keep it clean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hulse Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Mark, I just bought a s/h Webley 810 3" chamber and proofed for steel, only £250. Not a bad gun, shoots ok and cycles most things. My Remi 1100 is not steel proofed but i think you'll find the Remi 11-87 has a 3" chamber and is proofed for steel. There are quite a few models about so best to check with seller first. The Mossberg s/a would fit the bill too. Obviously the trusty (?) Escort is cheap and should be plenty knocking about. The Beretta 301/2/3 are great guns, but as far as i know are not steel proofed. To be honest it depends on what cartridges you want to put through the gun. As long as you're not planning on using high performance steel you should be ok with most modern guns and restrict your choking to to no more than 1/2. It's certainly worth checking the proof markings on any gun you're interested in and reading up on whatever cartridges you intend to use to be on the safe side. If you want to use high performance wildfowl loads then best to get something proofed to 1370bar and stamped with the fleur de lys symbol. I've spent hours recently reding up on steel loads and proofing so if you want any more info let me know. Hope this helps. I second the 810 the only problem is it sometimes jams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauer Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 i can highly recomend the 810 webley&scott had one since new for couple o years now and it cycles everything i put thru it!!! could probably get a near new 2nd hand 3 1/2 " wildfowler version fgr money you talking bout.....i just have standard 3" version heard good reports bout the "wildfowler" 3and a half inch version sauer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Just a thought mate.You mentioned the earlier Beretta 301, 302 and 303 as being within your price range. Be aware that, unless you come across one with a 3" chamber, originally only available as a special order usually 30" +, and relatively uncommon, they are all only 75mm chambered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXPhil Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I have a Beretta A303 m/c which is a cracking gun details sent by PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXPhil Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 (edited) Just a thought mate.You mentioned the earlier Beretta 301, 302 and 303 as being within your price range. Be aware that, unless you come across one with a 3" chamber, originally only available as a special order usually 30" +, and relatively uncommon, they are all only 75mm chambered. Forgive me but doesn't 3" = 75mm or am I being a little thick Edited October 1, 2009 by PhilSIDC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Phil, you are being thick mate, 3" is 76.2mm and everyone knows that the extra 1.2mm makes all the difference :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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