dieseldogg Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 (edited) i appear to be drawn :blink: to the Bushnell 6500 series Why :blink: But am tormenting myself if I should go for an illum retictle, but would only use one occassionally So whats the deal with the 4200 series Bushnell scope that can be "primed" with a torch to illum the reticle? 1st or 2nd focal plane?, where does the difference kick in? recticle type? I was thinking variable power not exceeding 16 mag & obj not exceeding 45mm I have not as yet recieved my amended FAC & So have not studied the Quad set up in detail vis-a-vis scope size / mounting height/ barrell changing Anticapiting spending about 5 or 6 hundred 2nd hand would be Ok, but I presume I would need to buy off a dealer for peace of mind? What will I be shooting :blink: (again) PS I am not rough with equipment, purely hobby use, so would prefer sommat smaller & lighter, as opposed to heavy & "unbreakable" No need for a 30mm tube either, is there? Edited October 16, 2009 by dieseldogg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 I had the 5-15 elite 3200 on my HMR and it was a great scope. I didn't shoot at night, but as long as there was a little glow from the sun below the horizon I could see well enough to shoot with it. I'd have another and am considering it for my 17 AH. Thanks, Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 I have the Simmons pro hunter 6-24X44 on my quad its a nice bit of kit but i should have gone for the 50mm objective, I shoot around 750-1000 bunnies a year and many are at twilight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 I would go along with Pavman, I would not worry about the mag being high but get a decent size objective lens. I have a 4 - 14 x 56 on my HMR and it is never above 10 mag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 yep and go for the 30mm tube, those who haven't got one claim it makes no difference but funnily enough the scopes that work best in low light all seem to have them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 yep and go for the 30mm tube, those who haven't got one claim it makes no difference but funnily enough the scopes that work best in low light all seem to have them I agree, is it also perhaps because the better scopes offer more clicks on the ret to adjust and thats in keeping with the overall quality the maker offers, I know most gents have a budget but its true to say get the best you can with glass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 I have a 30mm S&B 8 x 56 and really can't fault it. AMAZING low light performance. I don't get on with IR's so if you are the same it's in the right price ball-park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 The 6500 - with front PA? would be too long if you propose changing barrels without moving the scope. An Elite 6-24x40 or 50m Side Focus would do better. Most sidewheel scopes will do if they are mounted fairly high. Search for quad on here you'll find a few posts of interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldogg Posted October 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 yep, i did search & read & read & read anyways, wot aboot a Hawke Frontier, side wheel focus Bloody hell its £400.00, so IT must be good,, yes?....erm cant remember exact specs off hand though :unsure: I went all googly eyed trying to make sense of the Zeiss scopes different ranges & specs And yes I could just go for a simple high quality fixed power, cept an 8 by 56 could be a bit big of the front end, re barrel swopping and with 40mm up front i dont tink 6 mag is enough, for the magic 7mm pupil dia thinngy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted October 16, 2009 Report Share Posted October 16, 2009 Yep, def won't be able to change barrel in situ with anything like a 56, doubtful for a 50 too I would think. Good excuse to get a second Quad though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 I had a Nikko Sterling nighteater 3-16x56, i think it was with 30mm tube and illuminated reticule (which i never really used). Reasonable scope for the money and did the job nicely but for an extra £100 there is much better glass out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelly T Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I have a Quad in 17HMR and used to have a 2.5-16 x 42 Elite 6500, the scope is good quality but I found the eye relief fussy particularly on the higher mag setting (12+). I have now replaced it with Zeiss Conquest 6.5-24 x 50, I find this scope easier to use, much less fussy and better at night under the lamp. I know the objective is bigger on the Zeiss and to be fair I have not looked through the 50mm Bushnell so the comparison is not exactly apples v apples but given the choice I would take the Zeiss. If you are buying new these scopes are about the same price, second hand you will pay a little more for the Zeiss but will have some change from your budget to buy ammo! Good luck with the barrell changing! nice concept by sako but personally I couldn't be doing with the faffing around checking zero etc and restricting the scope you can have. I bought a seperate .22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldogg Posted October 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I might yet buy a dedicated .22 or .17 rifle, or indeed a second Sako "chassis" Two factors at work in my (against my origional thoughts) decision to purchase a Quad (i) I actually liked the feel of the rifle, and I felt the Sako was wonderfully engineered (ii) With our leprechauns at lishnasharragh, I was unsure about the likelyhood of being allowed TWO rimfire/small bore sporting rifles. Anyways I may mostly keep one barrel or tother on most of the time My origional plan was a 1407 Anschutz or similar in .22, for target, sporting use & virmin control Plus a dedicated .17 HMR That did not work out Thanks in the meantime cheers M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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