smiiithy Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 I have a feeling this question may have come up in the past but I’ve had a search and couldn’t find it so please don’t bite my head off, and it is a complete novice question but.. Can I use the same lead cartridges on quarry and clay or do I need a particular kind? I know that steel is needed for duck and geese etc but that is not a factor at present. Do you guys generally use the same carts for clay and pigeon etc? Thought appreciated. Cheers in advance, Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silpig5 Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 hi mike , heres my lay out 28g #7 steel for clays , 32g #6 lead for rabbit,pheasant and such like 36g #4 steel for duck 36g #4 bismoth for geese although im told #4steel is the same more or less as #6lead . how true that is i dont know im proberbly differant to most people ? its all down to what you like , what you have and what you can kill cleanly with . adi :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COACH Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 If you have to use a clay cartridge for pigeon shooting then use a trap cartridge as they are fast and have a tight pattern which will kill the bird quicker. Fibre if you can get them. 28g. Use 1/2 +3/4 choke for clean kills, you should always respect your quarry. Best to use 6s for pigeons/pheasants, in Fibre.28g/30g Rabbits I find 4/5s best 30g in Fibre. If you want an allround cartridge it would be 28g/30g game cartridge No 6 fibre, because its the largest shot you can use on a clay shoot. You can open the chokes a little for clays/game and close them a little for rough shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toombsy Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 I tend to use whatever I can get my hands on at a decent price for claying - normally No7s, either lead or steel, either 24g or 28g. Not bothered. If I only had those and there were pigeons bothering the crops, I would still use them. Ideally, No6s are the cartridge of choice for pigeons. A bit more expensive than No7s though. If cost is an issue, No6 are a good allround field cartridge that will put down pigeons, pheasants, partridges, crows, rabbits, rats and squirrels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 I've used Gamebore White Gold 28g #7 on Pigeons and Crows and they work. I like to shoot 1/4 and 1/2 choke. As long as you don't try to take on long range shots they are fine :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 best option is to use a game / pigeon load and just shoot clays with that I've shot them with all sorts and to my mind if I can kill a pigeon with it what chance does a clay stand :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbly Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 If you have to use a clay cartridge for pigeon shooting then use a trap cartridge as they are fast and have a tight pattern which will kill the bird quicker. Fibre if you can get them. 28g. Use 1/2 +3/4 choke for clean kills, you should always respect your quarry.Best to use 6s for pigeons/pheasants, in Fibre.28g/30g Rabbits I find 4/5s best 30g in Fibre. If you want an allround cartridge it would be 28g/30g game cartridge No 6 fibre, because its the largest shot you can use on a clay shoot. You can open the chokes a little for clays/game and close them a little for rough shooting. OOHH where do you get a cartride with a tight pattern? I think I need some of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silpig5 Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 If you have to use a clay cartridge for pigeon shooting then use a trap cartridge as they are fast and have a tight pattern which will kill the bird quicker. Fibre if you can get them. 28g. Use 1/2 +3/4 choke for clean kills, you should always respect your quarry.Best to use 6s for pigeons/pheasants, in Fibre.28g/30g Rabbits I find 4/5s best 30g in Fibre. If you want an allround cartridge it would be 28g/30g game cartridge No 6 fibre, because its the largest shot you can use on a clay shoot. You can open the chokes a little for clays/game and close them a little for rough shooting. i was under the impresion after reading many signs at many club that 7s was the start size not 6 . infact at highlodge you will be asked to leave the grounds if found using a game load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Express world cup (kinnel) 28g 5's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 i was under the impresion after reading many signs at many club that 7s was the start size not 6 . infact at highlodge you will be asked to leave the grounds if found using a game load. Most clay grounds will limit you to 28gm 7's as far as i am aware due to boundaries and gaps between stands. 32 gm of 6's will go a damned sight further than 21gm of 8's!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 28 grm is as high as you can go on clays (cpsa rules) and no 6 shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiiithy Posted October 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Thanks’ everyone that's exactly the info I was looking for. I'll bear that in mind when shopping for carts. 28 grm is as high as you can go on clays (cpsa rules) and no 6 shot ...this is exactly what the nearest clay ground has said I think I saw a sign when I was there that said no steel but I'll have to check if I find steel for cheaper than lead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 21 gm 7.5 or 8s for clays 32gm 6's for most game 34 gm 5's for real distance shooting at live stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marley29 Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 I've used Gamebore White Gold 28g #7 on Pigeons and Crows and they work. I like to shoot 1/4 and 1/2 choke. As long as you don't try to take on long range shots they are fine Same here I have used 28g # 7.5', White Gold's on pigeon and they worked absolutely fine. I generally use 1/4 and 1/2 chokes and the birds die the same as any other cart out to sensible ranges. They are also perfect for shooting clays. You can shoot all day long without any discomfort Generally speaking if your gonna be shooting pigeons the majority of the time I would go for 32g in size 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonySmith Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 (edited) Clays - 21g/24g/28g - 7.5/8 1/4&1/2 choke Rough - 34g-5 3/4 choke (SA) ATB Tony Edited October 21, 2009 by TonySmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris64 Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 24g clay's,32g hb eley pigeon crow,1/2-3/4 choke's & 1\4-1\2 for clay's does me ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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