Net opinions please

[Tim.]

I need to get some more netting to make a more flexible hide, does anyone have any experience of these one way vision type nets?

 

 

Any other views and experiences warmly appreciated!

 

Thanks

[Cranfield]

I have seen a few "one way vision nets" and they need a very dark full background, or you are silhouetted.

Its not just from the front, if light is on either side of the hide, you are silhouetted as well, to birds coming in from the sides.

 

They also tend to be very light and need a lot of pegging down in anything above a light breeze.

I hate sitting in a hide with the net trying to cling to me.

 

Personally, I wouldn't buy one.

[smig4373]

Rimfire and myself use a jack pyke one way net and found it ok...Have to agree with cranners,They are light but we hang 2 poly laser cut nets over it to weigh it down a little...We have the advantage down here of dense hedgerows,so a dark backdrop isnt a problem...There's 1 for sale in the "other" section.

 

http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...howtopic=103847

[Tim.]

Thanks for the replies.

I currently have the smallest deben camo scrim net. Just want to extend for a bit more space.

What do other people use?

 

Thanks

[George1990]

I bought the cheapest one, which I found on Mole Valley Farmers. If you're dressed in full camo and sit still it works a treat - and you can see the birds coming in.

 

I've decided that next time I get the chance to decoying I won't bother with a hide. I'll just stand behind the tree line behind some scrub in full camo. Saves all that extra bulk :blink:

[henry d]

Ex MOD net with MOD scrim on it and some ripped up hessian sacks works for me. Lightweight die cut and total cover nets are exactly as described above......nightmare !

[R C power]

Hi Tim,I recently bought a stealth net and not impressed at all couldn't see out of it as advertised also after setting the deek's out looked back and could see my mate clearly from 25 yards out making the tea!! best go back to basics,put up my 20 year old net and couldn't see him,save your money!! buy a mould resistant net a little bit more to cart about but worth it.

[Marley29]

Hi Tim,I recently bought a stealth net and not impressed at all couldn't see out of it as advertised also after setting the deek's out looked back and could see my mate clearly from 25 yards out making the tea!! best go back to basics,put up my 20 year old net and couldn't see him,save your money!! buy a mould resistant net a little bit more to cart about but worth it.

 

sounds like you had it the wrong way round

[Cranfield]

I am also not that impressed with the Stealth camo net.

Apart from it being see through when back or side lit, I don't like the black inner lining.

When the net is set up so that you have a higher background to sit against, the back is black, which stands out clearly against the surrounding cover and also highlights the shooter.

 

Ex MoD may be heavier to cart around, but at least it does what it says on the tin.

[Bluebarrels]

MOD netting as already said above,is the best for me,i do use some of the light netting available, but as a back net,roof or just to thicken up the front of the hide.works just fine for me,a lot of the newer nets available are too light in colour for my liking,and i think the mod procurement system would have researched the suitability of mod netting,being suitable in colour etc for most situations, save your money and invest in some Mod netting it will serve your purpose better,last you longer,and do everything expected of it B) BB

[Lez325]

I use heavy army netting - and place the see through stuff behind it- ( ie inside the heavy net) giving the top 12" a see through option whilst the rest of the hide and shooters are well hidden behind 2 layers of camo - works for me

 

Les B)

[Billy.]

Am I the only person who really likes stealth netting?! I've had the dog force his way through it numerous times, whereas the other stuff tore when he tried to find a gap when I sent him to retrieve.

[Beardo]

i like it (the 2 ply version that is), but i've cut viewing windows across one side, otherwise i start going mental looking through the black lining after a while

Edited November 9, 2009 by nickbeardo

[docholiday]

I have found it very poor on its own but if used behind netting it acts as a good window, so have cut it in half and line the top of the hide behind the netting, seems to work ok. but wouldnt use it on its own

Doc

[chrispti]

Am I the only person who really likes stealth netting?! I've had the dog force his way through it numerous times, whereas the other stuff tore when he tried to find a gap when I sent him to retrieve.

 

I like it, must admit it does take some getting used to, looking through it

[Cosd]

Personally, a combination of the Stealth net and one of these Clearview nets covers pretty much every scenario. They are both light and compact so can be carried together.

As already mentioned, the Clearview does need a decent backdrop, so I often use this in the summer when the bushes are thick with leaves/greenery etc, but quite often use them together to add more texture or create viewing windows; I tend to drape the stealth net between the poles and pull the clearview tightly across the poles, this creates a thicker texture for most of the cover and windows higher up on all three sides when set up against a backdrop. I've also used the Clearview to make either a part or full cover roof to the hide when the birds are coming from behind; Because it's so light it doesn't take much to clip it taught to the poles where as you would struggle to do this with a normal weight net.

[pob]

Well I am with Cosd and I use both. I often have to walk a good distance to set up.

 

I carry 3 nets in the truck. If I can get a good solid background and also don't need overhead cover, I get by with 3 poles and 2 nets (1 X stealth and 1 X clearview). Otherwise I will use 5 poles and drape a net overhead and behind me.

 

I like the stealth net, but I agree with comments about the black reverse. It does stand out to birds. I used to sacrifice a roomy hide by folding the stealth over double on the flanks. It can be tricky to see out, but I did get used to it.

 

I was really sceptical about the clearview net, but I have found it really useful and so lightweight. You can see out and, critically for someone as cack-handed as me, it won’t snag your barrels. You can't easily add foliage though and it does need a really dark background on it's own.

 

I use a jack pyke/clearview as a base layer, quite high, with the stealth hanging lower down outside giving me eye level windows through the clearview. I carry a lot of black plastic tarpaulin clips to hold it all together, because the clearview is a bit flighty.

 

If I had to choose to carry just one net though, it would be Stealth.

[adam1]

I was going to pop round to The Pigeon Shooter on friday to buy a stealth net but now this thread has put the cat among the pigeons , It looks like the MOD netting is coming out on top here but I was wondering what alternatives to stealth netting are on the market ?, as the lighter the better in my book, also are there different types of stealth netting or is it all the same. Cheers

Adam

[Cosd]

I have to disagree with the views on the Stealth net and it's black inner colour.

I used this net on it's own many times and never had a problem, I think as an all rounder it's an excellent net.

If money allows you to have the two, you can put the clearview on the inside to give you windows and also cover the black; But as I said, I don't see any facts to say the birds are put off by the inner colour, remember the woodies are looking for movement.

 

I didn't read it myself but was told about an article where a hide was made using the plastic orange/red mesh used on building sites; Birds decoyed in without hesitation even with this mass of orange/red on a green backdrop.....

[Cranfield]

I am not condemning the Stealth camo net outright, I know many people use it and are happy with it, but its not for me.

Having two nets to do the job of one net, is also not for me.

 

The "experiment" with the hide made from orange plastic roadworks mesh, was to prove that pigeons are colour blind.

Its my experience that if any outline is "broken" its not a problem, its the "solid" colours that pigeons don't seem to like.

I would consider the black inner of the Stealth net, that is exposed when the back of the hide is higher than the front, to be a "solid" colour.

[Cosd]

I am not condemning the Stealth camo net outright, I know many people use it and are happy with it, but its not for me.

Having two nets to do the job of one net, is also not for me.

 

The "experiment" with the hide made from orange plastic roadworks mesh, was to prove that pigeons are colour blind.

Its my experience that if any outline is "broken" its not a problem, its the "solid" colours that pigeons don't seem to like.

I would consider the black inner of the Stealth net, that is exposed when the back of the hide is higher than the front, to be a "solid" colour.

 

 

That's fair comment Cranfield, I see your point. To be fair I try wherever possible to set up a 3 sided hide so I don't usually have the high back; I usually just have two sides and a front with my rear poles higher than the front and so this gives me a natural backdrop.

 

I understand not wanting to carry two nets, but since I used to use an ex army net which was a black bag full in size and heavy, having these two nets for me is perfect. They both fold and are stored in one of those football boot bags, so smaller than a shoe box and very light.

 

I'll bear the solid colour thing in mind and use the clearview on the inside rather than the outside as I usually do....