mikee Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 safest bet would be a silenced .410 with non tox shells, head shots to about 20-25yds should result in a very dead goose with a bit more of a margin for error than a slug gun mikee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted November 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 I don't really want to go down the shotgun road again,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, yet Seems a lot of hassle nowadays. Not like the old days, get a cert, buy a gun, go over woods behind work and shoot things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickybird Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 dont forget rodp the majority who replied on here dont have air rifles, and looking at some of thier reported kills , looks like they kill for sport not for the pot....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 dont forget rodp the majority who replied on here dont have air rifles, and looking at some of thier reported kills , looks like they kill for sport not for the pot....... That's a pathetic statement. I can practically guarantee you that the people who have written on this thread have an airgun. I have one, but I don't list it in my signature. Secondly, your equally pathetic statement about people killing for sport and not for the pot is absurd. You will find that the vast majority of people on here will ensure that every last bird/mammal is put to good use, whether it is eaten, sold or given away. I don't eat everything I shoot, (It's not loads, I know) but I give what I don't eat/freeze to the old people round the corner. ----- Back to the thread: Is no one even slightly curious where this person is shooting them? If you've got Canada Geese on your land, you've probably got a bit of land, which means you can get either a FAC or SGC. I picture you crawling through the reeds in the local park at dusk.... DO NOT use an air rifle to shoot a Canada Goose. It is not powerful enough to ensure that you will cleanly kill it. Some people will say that airguns can kill rabbits etc, but Geese are hardy birds and do not go out quietly. You will end up with a goose flapping everywhere and you'll be scrambling after it. Get a proper firearm to do the job. Otherwise you'll just get reported by a walker, or worse, a bird watcher. There's nothing worse than someone setting a bad example for shooters, as the general population see/hear/read about one person and presume they're all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 This Topic is RIDDICULOUS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT1 Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Most topics turn out to be, others start out that way, which category is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 This Topic is RIDDICULOUS! And you reason behind that statement is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted November 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I picture you crawling through the reeds in the local park at dusk.... No, definitely not, it's private land. dont forget rodp the majority who replied on here dont have air rifles, and looking at some of thier reported kills , looks like they kill for sport not for the pot....... I think though that everyone's on the same wavelength when it comes to a clean kill, though they may have a slightly different opinion of the effort you will go to in order to get that clean kill. I'm not going to slag anyone off for having an opinion, whether I agree with it or not they're entitled to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 You may well find a sub 12ft lbs air rifle will kill a goose but not well and whilst it may not be illegal to do so (although it might) you’d probably find you could be prosecuted under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 (as amended). Then you might see how many of these barrack room lawyers (who advocate doing so) turn up at your trial and certainly don’t expect BASC to help. You have been warned! It's simply NOT the thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted November 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 It's simply NOT the thing to do. I know that, a lot say the same (a lot say differently), BUT, no-one would say why. There was no definitive answer until now. It now appears that a sub 12 ft lb WILL do the job but it's so borderline it has to be a perfect shot. It seems to be that the answer is, a sub 12 ft lb runs such a high a risk of maiming the creature that it's just not worth the risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 dont forget rodp the majority who replied on here dont have air rifles, and looking at some of thier reported kills , looks like they kill for sport not for the pot....... Had a popgun 40yr ago,still got one, & it's still a popgun. It's obvious that with statements like the above you haven't progressed through the shooting world much. Back to Topic; Rodp....to answer your question....a while ago on another forum their was a link to a video of an Ar$eH0le shooting an Elephant which took about 5-10 mins to drop before it died, & it took a while. Nothing wrong with that....problem was, the rifle was a 22 RF....!!!!!!!! Yep you heard right a RimFire...I never seen the video myself, another member mentioned it before it was removed from the Web, & I've no reason to doubt him. Yes it'll do the job, but hardly adequate. I'll sit back now & wait for the debate on foot pounds/which pellets the best...etc, BJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted November 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 video of an Ar$eH0le shooting an Elephant which took about 5-10 mins to drop before it died, & it took a while. Sounds dumb but we don't know the full story. If a bull elephant was coming at YOUR family and that's all you had would you not fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Sounds dumb but we don't know the full story. If a bull elephant was coming at YOUR family and that's all you had would you not fire When/Where did it mention a family ?... BJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Sounds dumb but we don't know the full story. If a bull elephant was coming at YOUR family and that's all you had would you not fire Believe me, if you were in the middle of a Savannah you'd not want a .22LR in your arsenal. It'll be some guy who has that much money that the guides will let him shoot whatever with any gun, all becuase he will pay them for the pleasure. They probably only had a .22LR to shoot at small mammals and something like a .375 H&H for big game. Anyway, back to the thread. As I said before, don't shoot a goose with an airgun. You do not need laws/rules etc to justify why you shouldn't. Common sense tells you that a big bird, like a goose and a weak powered firearm, like an air rifle, do not mix well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunter1970 Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 From what i have read here i cant beleive you still think about shooting with an air rifle..Just because its on the general licence it doesnt mean it can be shot with anything..i have air rifles and wouldnt even consider it.I also have read somewhere that a goose should be shot with a solid lead bullet as a min..so thats any sub 12ftlb rifle out of the equasion.22rf imho is a minimum requirement for head shot geese or do it the propper way and get a shotgun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 What about a catapult? you could do it with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntercarbine Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 bow and arrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 just throw tennis balls at the thing at least it will fly away unhurt. unless of course there is someone out there who will argue that the velocity of a tennis ball and its energy at 30 feet will kill an elephant if placed in the correct place. in which case my only answer would be to place said tennis ball up there own backside and call it 15 love Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 And you reason behind that statement is? Cmon MC-it`s not rocket science to now work out that an airgun is NOT the tool to dispatch Canada Geese! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted November 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Would a .177 be any better ? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Only joking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 I think a Gat Gun might be more apropriate - Loaded with Gat Dart, but no greater range than about 150 yards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Band Wagons and Garden Paths lead to closed topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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