pyr8 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 mate was driving his wifes citreon last year and hit a puddle? 12 inches deep.engine ingested water,bent 2 con rods,as well as your engine you,ve got the magic box under your seat that does not like water one bit.mate had one in his garage with all kinds of electric and running problems.he,d had it valeted and they had used a power washer on the doors and had soaked the box under the seat,seems you can,t get them repaired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProteuS Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 I symathise with you for ruining your truck, however I really cannot stand the whining, and babying people seem to expect. I had to deal with someone with a similar attitude the other day at the lake. The highest water anyone had ever seen, unprecidented rainfall, the lake over the road around 4 feet deep. and this guy tried to drive straight through "because there wasn't a sign to say it was closed". When there is a tremendous amount of water about, you cannot expect there to be enough people or signs to go around covering every little bit of water over the road incase someone doesn't engage their brain. People seem completely unable to assess wether or not something is safe to do without a huge number of signs around. Try reading an off roading book, the first thing about water will probably say, walk, or have someone walk infront to judge the depth if you don't know. Oh, and as nearly everyone has already said. Turning the engine over was a big mistake, it could possibly have caused some serious engine damage. I hope you can get your truck fixed ok, and you'll now know better next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 first lesson is know where your air intake and don't go to a depth that goes anywhere near it. Would have loved to see a picture as must have been a cracking sized puddle to drown a discovery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agusta Posted December 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 I symathise with you for ruining your truck, however I really cannot stand the whining, and babying people seem to expect. I had to deal with someone with a similar attitude the other day at the lake. The highest water anyone had ever seen, unprecidented rainfall, the lake over the road around 4 feet deep. and this guy tried to drive straight through "because there wasn't a sign to say it was closed". When there is a tremendous amount of water about, you cannot expect there to be enough people or signs to go around covering every little bit of water over the road incase someone doesn't engage their brain. People seem completely unable to assess wether or not something is safe to do without a huge number of signs around. Try reading an off roading book, the first thing about water will probably say, walk, or have someone walk infront to judge the depth if you don't know. Oh, and as nearly everyone has already said. Turning the engine over was a big mistake, it could possibly have caused some serious engine damage. I hope you can get your truck fixed ok, and you'll now know better next time. Its not as though I drove it into Lake Windermere to see if the ******* thing floats!!! Its a road I dont know, so I didn't have a clue there was such a large dip under the bridge. The water was the same level as the road, there was no dip (that I could see) so the "puddle" only looked a few inches deep if that. I'm not going to get out and inspect every puddle to see if its safe as you suggested, if I was was off-roading....of course! As I said before the only way out was to turn the engine over, the doors lock automatically as well, if I did manage to open the door or smash a window I would have flooded the interior (bigger insurance job - write off). So it was either write it off or cause more damage to the engine, I went for more damage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 hate to say but you probably have written it off anyway, usually a bent or snapped rod writes off the bottom end of the engine and if you're really unlucky the head as well, Landrover aren't famous for having cheap engines if they're replaced by a dealer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Mule Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Sorry but not having much symathy for you driving into a swimming pool but see where you are coming from. Just an additional word about turning over flooded engines: Not only can you get hydrostatic lock, but if you are lucky enough to get away with it, you may want to consider that you may have an amoount of water in the cranck case (i.e. where you should have only oil). You should be thinking of draining the engine and replacing all the fluids. Further thought suggests differentials etc. And last and most important: if you do manage to get through the puddle, test/dry out your brakes by using the brake peddle. Grandad mode off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProteuS Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 If it was only a few inches deep, surely you could see the tarmac and markings on the road if they are there. Saying that, this picture, is a road, but also happens to be Ullswater. I had to head through in an attempt to get to a property. I am currently still drying the vehicle out, and waiting for a better day to change all the oils, I only drove it out of necessity and would not normally do so without a snorkel / raised breathers / proper consideration. If you were able to use the electrics to turn the engine over, could you not have opened a window or sunroof ? Even smashing a window, is a hell of a lot cheaper than risking destroying an engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 blimey thats a bit keen, this is about as adventurous as my old one used to get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 (edited) Max wading depth is 1/2 meter for the standard d2 which is not alot so drive we care get a nice bow wave . Best to keep going rather than stop as it that happens is the water comes back and water ingress happens. Also I always wind the window down prior to entry so if it gets hairy bail ot is possable. Regards Edited December 1, 2009 by Over the hill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauer Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 mmmm climb out and get soddin wet maybe need some new clothes or turn it over and totally wreck the engine? i would have done in the sun roof and climbed out few quid in next or tescos clothes ailse damn site cheaper than a new disco engine hope it isnt totally ******** and you get yer insurance to help foot any bills all the best sauer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wils Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 If it keeps raining you can forget a snorkel, we're gonna need boats!!! Thats a ****** about your car.... hope i works out ok! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyr8 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 aint hindsight great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danccooke Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 I can't understand people not having sympathy, if it is a road you don't expect 5ft of water. I know of a bridge simmilar to what you are talking about near some of my family in Millhill area of London. We very nearly did a simmilar thing when i was a nipper in the old Agro. however the car infront alerted is to the problem. We would never have known we were all driving at about 15mph as the rain was so heavy and this poor fella just dissapeared infront of us, the gradient on the dip was pretty steep and even at 15mph he was caught off gaurd and sunk his BMW. Off road then tough lucksky, on road i'd have a chat with the council. take the american approach and sue for mental anguish and the fact you are now scared to drive when it is raining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Best thing you could do with a disco...drown it! Puddles have a habit of catching unwary motorists out. I’ve seen a car tried to cross a pudle that turned out to be a bridge that had collapsed and a vehicle that looked like it had ht a brick wall on the M6 near Shap Fell when it ploughed into a ‘puddle’ that turned out to be an overflowing river across the carriageway! Beware! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agusta Posted December 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 (edited) Looks like the engine is fine!! It starts up but cuts out after a few hundred yards, they plugged it into the computer and found 45 faults all electrical, things like the immobiliser, horn etc need replacing. Its still going to cost a fortune as only the main dealer can look at and diagnose the faults, insurance will cover it, got a nice little courtesy car to boot! Also insurance company say if the car has been involved in a flood incident they automatically replace the carpets, how stupid is that, the interior is completely dry, what a waste of time and money. mmmm climb out and get soddin wet maybe need some new clothes or turn it over and totally wreck the engine? i would have done in the sun roof and climbed out few quid in next or tescos clothes ailse damn site cheaper than a new disco engine hope it isnt totally ******** and you get yer insurance to help foot any bills all the best sauer Climb out flood the interior and write off the car, good idea Its all electrical by the way, so you would need to smash the windows (somehow). Edited December 7, 2009 by agusta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 you didn't drown it properly in that case, bloody landrovers are useless these days if you stopped it by flooding the electrics thats pretty pathetic on a diesel engined 4x4, however in your case a lot cheaper than a new engine just a shame to have a claim on your record and pay extra insurance next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 you didn't drown it properly in that case, bloody landrovers are useless these days if you stopped it by flooding the electrics thats pretty pathetic on a diesel engined 4x4, however in your case a lot cheaper than a new engine just a shame to have a claim on your record and pay extra insurance next year He may have protected no claims shaun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 even so come next years renewal when they say have you had a claim they will weight the following years premium so you do end up paying more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Looks like the engine is fine!! It starts up but cuts out after a few hundred yards, they plugged it into the computer and found 45 faults all electrical, things like the immobiliser, horn etc need replacing. Its still going to cost a fortune as only the main dealer can look at and diagnose the faults, insurance will cover it, got a nice little courtesy car to boot! Also insurance company say if the car has been involved in a flood incident they automatically replace the carpets, how stupid is that, the interior is completely dry, what a waste of time and money. I'm glad its all worked out for you, just don't go and flood the courtesy car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agusta Posted December 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Got it back today, needed a new engine ECU and a complete oil, fluid and filter change. Also carpets are slightly damp and starting to smell so looks like it will need carpets after all. I also have a problem with condensation at the moment, its mainly on the sunroofs and drips onto the seats (leather seats so isn't too bad), wasn't like this before so it must be damp inside. Just wondering if its worth getting a dehumidifier ?? Frosty nights aren't helping, everything inside is frozen in the mornings Something like this maybe: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/dehumidifier-damp-mo...=item33583750c8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiiithy Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 For a dehumidifier to work it needs to be humid not wet, good on a hot day but not very good in this weather. A fan heater and a dehumidifier at the same time would work wonders. With the windows open about 1". Be careful where you site the fan heater, you need at least 1m between the blown air and any seats/dash. Driver footwell with the seat pushed back, boot with the seats down are all good. Once you've got it pretty dried out some large bags of silica gel placed around the car should sort the rest. If you've got air con then leave it on all of the time your in the car with the windows closed. This one might be a bit of an old wife's tale but you can try leaving quantities of rice in bowls around the car over night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiiithy Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 PS your carpets can probably hold a surprising amount of water so get them out sharpish and bring the seats inside to dry if possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shot shot Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 couldn't you put some plastic sheeting down and just fill the thing with desacant. the moisture will evaporate into the air as long as the air temp is above freezing, so if you have access to a garage that you can heat, it would be alot safer than sticking a fan heater in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbly Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 If it's got A/C just bang it on hot and recirc,It's gonna take time which ever way you do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Agree with the air con, stick it on hot and go for a long drive or leave running for a few hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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