bullet boy Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 They say theres Global Warming,-with the temperatures that we have had,-im not so sure!?-Anyone else agree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 god youre being very philosopical tonight there might be, but i dont know. theres lots of arguments for it, and lots against. but two things that stick in my mind, first the planet is millions of years old, we know theres been major climate changes in the past, which i doubt were due to co2 polution from cars , so who's to say this global warming isnt something thats natural? secondly, and this is waaay out there, but anyone who has any navigational knowledge/experience knows that trues north and magnetic north varies by a couple of mils every year. now if magnetic north is changing, would that not mean that the planet itself is not spinning as straight, so the poles are moving (and not over here to be builders), so some previous cold areas will warm up and vice versa. probably a load of cack, but it was an interesting drunk conversation recently anyway think the conclusion we came to was that the planet was over populated, and we were going to sort that out using zombies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holly Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 my opinion global warming =******** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 my opinion global warming =******** Global Warming was invented by unemployed scientists, this enabled them to secure lucrative contracts to prove the theory. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 This Global change in weather has happened before. Man On Earth Channel 4+1 now.. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeinVA Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 I think its all ****.. I went to the local zoo over holiday and i saw a damn Penguin laying still in its pen? I asked the Zoo keep what had happened? He said the poor critter froze to death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nial Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 There's a lot of evidence that 'global warming' has been based on the not very rigorous work of a small group of 'scientists' that have perpetuated the myth to ensure their funding is guaranteed. See.. http://climateaudit.org/ http://bishophill.squarespace.com/ http://wattsupwiththat.com/ ..for details. This... http://climateaudit.files.wordpress.com/20...9/ohioshort.pdf ..is also worth a read. A geologist who was used to having to do a lot of due diligence work when analysing raw data from drilling samples (before recommending sites for further exploration) found that the people who were the source of the 'hockey stick' didn't even have the raw data properly archived and available. Governments are happy to go along with AGW because it allows billions to be raised in 'green' taxes that are then p***ed up the wall elsewhere. Carbon trading is a racket with several groups making billions out if it, and the profit in the carbon credits of the steel plant in wales was part of the reason it was shut and the work moved to a less modernised plant in India. There was more money in improving that plant to the same level as the Welsh one, so Britain lost 1700 jobs with no net difference in the CO2 emitted in steel production. Also, the guy who's the head of the IPCC (the body that produces the climate reports) has been uncovered as having his fingers in a _lot_ of pies. http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2009/12/busy-man.html http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2009/12/v...-influence.html http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2009/12/h...r-pachauri.html It's all balearics. Nial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 secondly, and this is waaay out there, but anyone who has any navigational knowledge/experience knows that trues north and magnetic north varies by a couple of mils every year. now if magnetic north is changing, would that not mean that the planet itself is not spinning as straight, so the poles are moving Well, here's another one. Ice at the poles appears to be melting, seems to be a well established fact. We see pictures on TV of some areas that have, allegedly, been recently flooded by rising sea level, but that could be merely the media's version of 'poetic license'. Why has the sea level around us not risen by the same amount? Could it be because of plate movements that those areas have been flooded, if indeed they have? Could it be that the centre of gravity within the molten stuff in the centre of the Earth has changed just enough for water levels to rise in certain areas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smig4373 Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 The ice at the south pole is floating on the artic ocean so if if melts the displacement of water would counter act itself.....Just the same as putting an ice cube in ya beer....The level does'nt rise as it melts.... P.s It might be the north pole.... :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 One way or another, we are going to run out of oil one day, so I can't argue too much against trying to relocate our energy dependance onto something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 One way or another, we are going to run out of oil one day, so I can't argue too much against trying to relocate our energy dependance onto something else. what about the old roman method of burning christians to save on electrical costs? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Just the same as putting an ice cube in ya beer....The level does'nt rise as it melts.... Damn, there's me thinking I could be living on the coast without moving in the next twenty years... Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 you dont have to move, just get into scuba diving failing that buy a property a mile back from the coast... youu be laughing when it all floods and youre still dry, only a few yards from the shore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ME Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 More big breasted women wearing bikinis on our beaches in an elongated summer - what's not to like ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 More big breasted women wearing bikinis on our beaches in an elongated summer - what's not to like ? now I like that idea!! Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 (edited) More big breasted women wearing bikinis on our beaches in an elongated summer - what's not to like ? fat women wearing bikinis on our beaches in an elongated summer Edited December 28, 2009 by babbyc1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nial Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Well, here's another one. Ice at the poles appears to be melting, seems to be a well established fact. Aye, except it isn't. Satellite photos of the north pole ice shows it's been growing and getting thicker for the last couple of years. The ice at the poles does periodically decrease and increase, the north west passage was first navigated a hundred years or so ago but hasn't been passable until the last few years, now it's closing up again. Nial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
night owl Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 millenium bug / global warming / = ££££££££££££££££££££££££££££ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smig4373 Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 millenium bug / global warming / = ££££££££££££££££££££££££££££ Well said that man... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Sarakun Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 One way or another, we are going to run out of oil one day, so I can't argue too much against trying to relocate our energy dependance onto something else. And I for one can't wait and wish it would happen in my lifetime. Riding to work on a Horse, stopping at Inns on the way, Sailing Ships, Canal Boats, the smell of log fires, having time to see the children grow up, yup, a slower way of life certainly has it's appeal. Man On Earth was certainly a good series. We all know that the Ice started to melt about 12,000 years ago and it hasn't stopped yet. It's happened before and is well documented in the Bible, (check out a bloke called Noah) it will come back and then melt again. Shame that Governments use natural phenomena for scaremongering to get our hard earned cash out of our pockets, more of a shame that we are so stupid to pay it, or more that we have no choice because we don't stick together and say enough is enough. OK chaps.................. Rant over.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 the north west passage was firstnavigated a hundred years or so ago but hasn't been passable until the last few years, now it's closing up again. Nial. What a shame! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shot shot Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 The ice at the poles does periodically decrease and increase, the north west passage was firstnavigated a hundred years or so ago but hasn't been passable until the last few years, now it's closing up again. I think that should read "open up", which can only be a good thing, saves ships having to sail thousands of nautical miles to panama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckytrigger Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Its all a load of ******** imo. I will never worry about my carbon footprint either and will keep driving my oil burning landy without a second thought . IF global warming is for real (which i personally think is untrue )then when countrys the size of China/America/Russia are given free reign on how much **** they pump into the atmospere i think whatever we do in the uk will make little or no impact anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nial Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 I think that should read "open up", which can only be a good thing, saves ships having to sail thousands of nautical miles to panama No, I did mean closing. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/09/wuwt...ing-arctic-ice/ I'm pretty sure I read about a warmist 'scientist' who tried to sail the north west passage to demonstrate the melting polar ice caps, but he didn't make it 'cos he got stuck in the ice! Nial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 Personally I don't think you can discount it altogether and the incidences of severe weather events does seem to be increasing worldwide. Yes its not altogether unnatural and the carbon contained in the oil would have been in the atmosphere years ago so in theory we are just releasing it but if we carry on deforesting the planet of the plants that create the oxygen we breathe is it a good thing and will future generations have the same planet to enjoy and I think its probably no. Using it as an excuse to tax us isn't right but then its probably best not to ignore it as it doesn't affect us much at the moment. There are usually some pretty blinkered views on here and this one is turning into a cracker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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