eric parker Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Hi guys, I have just broken down on my way home, managed to break down just under quarter of a mile away, so no help from RAC without 80 quid excess Anyway i was turning into junction, and the car stalled on me and stopped, and now wont start. The radiator was leaking fluid quite badly, however the temp guage didnt seem to show over-heating straight afterwards I'm not the most mechanical person and was hoping to learn alot from servicing this one! Its a 1987 turbo d. fourtrak. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 cant help you on the mechanics side of things, but with the AA I always regesture at my mums address, that way they will come even if it wont start outside the house Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedark Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 More detail needed mate, sounds like head/gasket failure leading to over pressurised cooling system thus blowing the coolant out. It wont start because of fluid in the cylinders. Is it coughing but not actualy starting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Tow it home yourself?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windy Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 re possible head gasket......check coolant tank and underside of oil cap/dip stick for mayonnaise type gunk. Although for HGF, would have thought you might have seen some temp fluctuation. I'm no mechanic, but I have had a Lotus Elise for 5yrs, so HGF is my nemesis!! Other than that, register on Daihatsu Drivers web site and post the question on there......there are some knowledgeable bods on there.....particularly 'ews' and 'Assasin'. Have had a lot of tips for problems with my 'Trak on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfarmerboy Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 more information would be useful, ie does the engine turn over when you turn the key or is it dead, do you hear any clicks when the turn the key if it is not turning over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 its highly unlikely to be the head gasket, one possibility is thiugh the temperature gayge didn't go up that its overheated badly and seized, not sure whether that age was cam belt or chain but failure of either would give you an instant stop. The traks are pretty basic so it does take a lot to make them break down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfarmerboy Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Think that age has a cog driven system, well mine does and that was a DL-50 engine from a 1986 fourtrak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Yes, You need one of these: http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...st&p=971214 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Pudding Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 If there's no fluid in the system the temp. gauge will not work . all the best yis yp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedark Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Maybe it was that dodgy non turbo oil you used on it!! :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric parker Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Hi guys, cheers for the input, good point about temp guage with no fluid! The engine does turn over just no fire up. Good news is that ive towed it over quarter of a mile away and getting the AA out on my mums policy. I'l keep you posted on the diagnosis. I think it must have over-heated and somethings failed... we'll see. cheers p.s. hadn't got round to the oil change was picking up a filter wrench when it stopped! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfarmerboy Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 could be a blocked fuel filter, or something to do with the fuel system if it turns over and does not start, first thing i would do is slab a new filter on, also check the air intake, (unlikely but could possibly be blocked) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric parker Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 ok so it fires with easy start in the intake, so it looks like the fuel pump solenoid has packed up :blink: . points go to crazyfarmerboy . I guess the radiator fluid got in it or something? or just coincidence. Thats a weight off my mind. cheers guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfarmerboy Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Good to here it is sorted :blink: Always check simple things and easy fixes before worrying about blown head or anything like that, maybe the car was being nice by stopping for you before any damage was done by having no water in the rad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedark Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 It would fire on easy start any way mate, dont count your chickens..............I really hope its fuel for you, try this. Fill the cooling system right up, jam a pop bottle with the bottom cut off in the rad filler and top it up so you have a visible tower of water. Strike it up on easy start. See bubbles = head******, no bubbles = fuelfeed - simples!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprinter Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 My money is on a collapsed fuel filter. Fuel all sucked through system and now you have an airlock that you will need to bleed out at the injection pump. Happened to me many moons ago on the M1, unfortunately i cant remember where the bleed nipple is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric parker Posted February 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 My money is on a collapsed fuel filter. Fuel all sucked through system and now you have an airlock that you will need to bleed out at the injection pump. Happened to me many moons ago on the M1, unfortunately i cant remember where the bleed nipple is. interesting,cheers mate, i'l give that a go first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 use a multimeter (or a bulb!) to check for power to the fuel shut off solenoid with the ignition on, if that's good you should be able to hear a faint click noise coming from the solenoid on energising ( try taking the wire on and off ), then have a look at the fuel filter, more often than not a collapsed or blocked fuel filter will allow the engine to run but with no load, bogging down and dying on anything but tick over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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