rascal_2005 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 hi guys, im trying to strip my stock but nothing is happning really. nitromorsed it twice but its not really bringing the wood back. any help?? thanks john boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu_young Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 send it for a acid dip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu_young Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 sand paper just do it the hard way thats wat i doner just sanded the varnish off with sand paper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_commoner Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 use a steel ruler at 90 degrees to the stock and gently take the top layer off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rascal_2005 Posted February 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 is that with the nitromors on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 sounds like it might be lacquered rather than varnished Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA-airgunner Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 (edited) soda blasting http://www.rps-sb.com/ http://www.restoblast.ca/FAQ.htm Edited February 23, 2010 by BSA-airgunner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_commoner Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 is that with the nitromors on? with or without nitromorse, i dont usually use it, just a few scrapes wit hte steel rule usually takes the laquer/varnish off fairly easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COACH Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Might sound daft but it is wood I suppose ? I knew a bloke that tried to take the lacquer of a gun with one of these new fangled coatings. Also I`v seen guns in the past that have been oiled but have been polished so much by a buffer for polishing metal that it looks like lacquer, stunning. You may have to rough it up a bit with sand paper before the Nitro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 NM is there to remove a finish like varnish / gloss etc, its not going to do anything to the actual wood ! If you have applied NM an nothing is happening, then I suggest you dont have varnish on your gun. As for taking a metal ruler to the stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRS Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 burn it off , throw it in a fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_commoner Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 NM is there to remove a finish like varnish / gloss etc, its not going to do anything to the actual wood ! If you have applied NM an nothing is happening, then I suggest you dont have varnish on your gun. As for taking a metal ruler to the stock why not ? i have done quite a few like that, it was tip given to me by a gunsmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smig4373 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Ive just finished doing my stock......I used Blackfriars paint n varnish remover with a course grade wire wool......Then sand-paper of various grades to get it back to smooth...Finally 0000 grade wire wool before the oil went on.....Happy with result....Always use birchwood stock conditioner at the end to take any imperfections out and get the satin finish.....The stock conditioners stop it getting finger marks on too..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 All you need to do a stock is a stanley knfe blade, wire wool , hairdryer , small brass brush and some meths . Plus oil or varnish Might have to do one of my stocks and post it as it happens ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampwick Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 All you need to do a stock is a stanley knfe blade, wire wool , hairdryer , small brass brush and some meths .Plus oil or varnish Might have to do one of my stocks and post it as it happens ? Im half way through my stock nitro was easy, two coats of oil on and one more going on tonight. One question though if I want a deep glossy shine how do I acheive it? Ive been told there are a number of options by the armchair experts at work.... french polish, wax or varnish. Any thoughts? Cheers ps I will post the pictures of process to date later if I can manage the tech! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Did you rub it down between coats ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 why not ? i have done quite a few like that, it was tip given to me by a gunsmith It seems all wrong to me and not how I was taught to prepare and finish wood. Its not a tip I'll be taking up anytime soon. If your stock is fashioned from an old fence post and you happen to gouge / scratch the woodwork on the various curves then I suppose it wont matter too much. Its the end result that counts, and if you can remove all the varnish and get a good finish using this method then good on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_commoner Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 oil ........... leave to dry ......... rub down ................ and repeat ................ as many times as you need to achive the finish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampwick Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Did you rub it down between coats ? Sorry just got summoned to the table. No I didnt rub it down between coats! dont tell me thats the worse kind of wood sin please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 You need to rub it down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Just on my fifth coat of Nitromors Professional. Almost completely got the varnish off my SBS stock. Forend took three coats. Stock took more coats than normal. Does anyone know how to add grain? I have heard tales of felt tip or Indian Ink and a feather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rascal_2005 Posted February 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 right guys update time! turns out all it needed was some time and more effort lol, got it ready and its just had its second coat. i will post pics asap. cheers for the help guys john boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Just on my fifth coat of Nitromors Professional. Almost completely got the varnish off my SBS stock. Forend took three coats. Stock took more coats than normal. Does anyone know how to add grain? I have heard tales of felt tip or Indian Ink and a feather. Ive never 'added' grain, but if it was varnished, the wood will be very dry underneath, oil will help bring out the grain and improve the contrast a great deal. More coats of oil will keep improvong it, though not as much as the first two. Try wetting a small area with some water, will give you an idea of the effect. I would try that first, rather than try and add grain artificially, could end up looking a bodge job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smig4373 Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 (edited) Im half way through my stock nitro was easy, two coats of oil on and one more going on tonight. One question though if I want a deep glossy shine how do I acheive it? Ive been told there are a number of options by the armchair experts at work.... french polish, wax or varnish. Any thoughts? Cheers ps I will post the pictures of process to date later if I can manage the tech! I use Birchwood stock conditioner after oil'ing...Gets rid of all the oil imperfections and leaves a lovely satin lustre.....It also protects it from finger marks and rain marks.....This is 1 of mine that i did earlier this year......On the fisrt coat of oil...Use your hands and really "palm" it in...gets the oil warm and really pushes it in to the grain....You need to give it light buff with 0000 grade wire wool between coats.... >>CLICKY<< >>STOCK CONDITIONER<< Ive just done my Silma O/U...I use TRU-OIL to,Quick drying...Very easy to work with....Ive done 5 guns now like this...Been happy with the results everytime.... Edited February 23, 2010 by smig4373 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordhardup Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Im half way through my stock nitro was easy, two coats of oil on and one more going on tonight. One question though if I want a deep glossy shine how do I acheive it? Ive been told there are a number of options by the armchair experts at work.... french polish, wax or varnish. Any thoughts? Cheers ps I will post the pictures of process to date later if I can manage the tech! i Hi mate, just finished doing my stock with birch wood casy tru oil, it came up way to shiney so I cut it back with 0000 wire wool and gave it a very light waxing, it looks fantastic with a reallty deep sheen. Hope this helps. ATB Clynt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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