shawi72uk Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 (edited) This dog is 4 months old and an absolute star i was told this by dave at bottlingwood gundogs but the trainer said i need to be harder with him which im finding hard to do so i made the decision to let him go to someone who can be harder with him and train him better than i can The bloodline and background of this dog is second to none and he fully vacinated and micro chipped and lives outside £200.00 no offers cost me £350 only 2 and a bit months ago Steve Edited March 2, 2010 by shawi72uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
country-bumpkin Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 what a cracking looking dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawi72uk Posted March 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Some more pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcw65 Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Nice dog and only a couple of miles up the road,pity ive not got the £200 or i would have been interested as i need to bring a fresh dog on with mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Wildfowler Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Nice looking dog mate, but you don't have to be hard hard with them, you could try going down the reward training, you have got to be firm with that method. I did one for a friend who was in the same prediciment as you, firm friendly and a pocket full of *** bits and treats. Don't give up on the little fellow but if you do it looks like you are going to spend an aweful lot of money on buying a fully trained one, so stick with him,he deserves it good luck, Cheers Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proTOM1 Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawi72uk Posted March 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 No longer for sale Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 stick with it mate im sure all will come good BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 No longer for sale Sorry Saves a long drive .... Very weirdly,the wife just said go and get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soontjen Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 (edited) he's only a pup give him time ..it's ok people saying he should be doing this and that .. if he's the dog you want keep with him .. Edited March 2, 2010 by soontjen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 No longer for sale Sorry At four months old i would think so let him be a pup for christ sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertyandlivelihood Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 What a stunning dog.........I do hope you decided to keep him?? Although i would have jumped at the chance to take him if i had seen your advert earlier!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawi72uk Posted March 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Im keeping him lads and dont worry i'm letting him be a pup he is my right hand man (dog) all this started from the trainer not in a bad way but saying he was a stubborn dog and i may have better luck with a softer dog as a novice Steve but who said it was going to easy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 My first springer was very headstrong, but I have never had to be hard with him. I have to say that if a trainer told me I had to be then I would be looking for another trainer. By using a combination of rewards and tone of voice I have got a dog that does what I want him to do. OK he is not the best but he is far from the worst. The hardest thing I have ever done is throw his lead at him. Not to hit him but just to make him realise you can still get to him even if he is out of arms reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Im keeping him lads and dont worry i'm letting him be a pup he is my right hand man (dog) all this started from the trainer not in a bad way but saying he was a stubborn dog and i may have better luck with a softer dog as a novice Steve but who said it was going to easy ? I'm glad to hear that mate, you have a lovely looking dog there. Unless you plan to use the dog for field trials then you won't necessarily need to be firm with him. The pup I have at the minute is 9 months old (my first dog that I trained myself) and many times I felt like throwing the towel in, but she has been amazing this year and I plan to make her better over the off season. Good luck mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MITCHF Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Great to see you keeping the pup. Get some lessons from a good trainer if it's your first. I had probs with my first , went to a great trainer (for me not the dog :-) and she's improving already. It's worth the effort and patience. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delbert Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 This dog is 4 months old and an absolute star i was told this by dave at bottlingwood gundogs but the trainer said i need to be harder with him which im finding hard to do so i made the decision to let him go to someone who can be harder with him and train him better than i can The bloodline and background of this dog is second to none and he fully vacinated and micro chipped and lives outside £200.00 no offers cost me £350 only 2 and a bit months ago Steve If you are convinced you can't manage with him and have to sell him than do so. However I am not convinced that at 4 months he has shown any traits that would detract from training at your own pace it is IMO far too early to tell . I have still much work to do with Ace and he is my fourth ESS 2 years old and I have limited time to concentrate on training. ESS are little beggars up to the end of their first year and provided you keep pecking away repeating lessons and keeping them interested they get the idea some days it is heart breaking but it does finally work out .Failing that sending him away for training with a pro is an option especially with the firey ones.Pro's can be hard on a dog because they want results fast it works with a robust dog but those with different temperament can be spoiled by the rough and ready approach. I know a dog from one of the best trainers in Wales that showed great promise as trials dog but in the final cut he became very timid and was passed on to shooting pal. PM me if you change your mind and want a chat. Derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawi72uk Posted March 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 (edited) Cheers for the support lads Edited March 2, 2010 by shawi72uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 has the trainer suggested having his nuts off as that will make a difference. Its a predicament and obviously you have to be prepared for the work and the hard knocks that come with it, there will be lots with a springer. What element of hard is your trainer talking about, is it being consistent and not letting the dog get away with anything or more than that? Its a hard road and will be for the forseeable future and you will want to tear your hair out at times but keep at it keep going to training as much for you as the dog and make sure it gets enough exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune82 Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 I was told something similar with my Cocker at 8 months old. I actually think the trainer was trying to get me and the dog to run before we could both walk. I stopped going and took things at my own pace and let the dog grow up a bit. So far it seems to be going well. Have patience!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 4 months = far to young IMHO I started mine at 6 months, and only with basic obedience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziplex Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 My little bitch is about 9 months now and has had limited training....most at home through the winter. She sits/stays to whistle, retrieves (or not if I decide to get it myself), walks well on a lead, turns on a sixpence at the call of her name etc. but i'm in no hurry as she's spot on/advanced for her age. Because her training has been short and often and done in a playful manner she's more than ready for some more serious stuff now the nights are drawing out. She's a real quick learner and very keen, I put this down to not trying too hard too soon, difficult if your keen to get cracking but it pays not to rush I guess Roobs was about 6 months before doing anything too taxing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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