Phil Boakes Resigns CPSA

[clayman]

Phil Boakes resigned as CEO of the CPSA today.

 

He has accepted his holiday and severance pay, and is not returning to work out any period of notice.

[poontang]

I bet they're loving that on the claysporting site.

 

Must go have a gander.

[beretta]

well it is about time :unsure:

[Mungler]

He's not exactly a man who has taken previous hints or suggestions from the masses that he "do one", so what tipped him over the edge? Something juicy or another offer?

 

Looks like a platform for change now. Lets hope it doesn't all get ******* up along the way.

 

If I were the CPSA I would start an immediate campaign to get the disgruntled back into the fold - nothing says "goodbye" better then the organisation doing much better without them.

[clayman]

The board who were elected at the 2009 AGM has included a number of people who have wanted to set correct management procedures in place. The first action was to remove Mr Boakes as a board member himself, so that the board could function correctly, ie policy and direction - and hand that down to the CEO to implement. With that in place the next requirements are targets and reporting - together with explanations for recent policies and actions. Mr Boakes does not appear to wish to be involved with his board in this way, and has chosen to depart instead.

 

I think he is heading for a golfing retirement.

[Catamong]

I think you will find that the soon to be elected new Chairman, (Bjorn Waktare), will start the process of change that is necessary to broaden the appeal of the CPSA, however, let's not forget that the CPSA will never have much appeal to the guy who only ever shoots at straw bale biff shoots, and to whom insurance is a waste of money, (far better spent on beer and fags). :unsure:

 

Perhaps we ought to follow the example of other Countries, and introduce competency testing and compulsory membership of an approved organisation, i.e. CPSA or BASC..??

 

Cat

[Chard]

NickyT the Axeman. Rules with a rod or iron. I knew he would get things rolling :unsure:

 

Well in Nicky laaaaaaaaaaaa.

 

Who's next?

[Mungler]

I think you will find that the soon to be elected new Chairman, (Bjorn Waktare), will start the process of change that is necessary to broaden the appeal of the CPSA, however, let's not forget that the CPSA will never have much appeal to the guy who only ever shoots at straw bale biff shoots, and to whom insurance is a waste of money, (far better spent on beer and fags). :unsure:

 

Perhaps we ought to follow the example of other Countries, and introduce competency testing and compulsory membership of an approved organisation, i.e. CPSA or BASC..??

 

Cat

 

 

Well Cat you can't be referring to me or other straw balers; I left an A class classification when I abandoned the CPSA. You can't seriously be suggesting that the CPSA is for AA class and above and that people need testing to get in? At this rate you will need a map and a torch to get out of your own bottom

[paulos]

CV in the post :unsure:

[clayman]

I think you will find that the soon to be elected new Chairman, (Bjorn Waktare), will start the process of change that is necessary to broaden the appeal of the CPSA, however, let's not forget that the CPSA will never have much appeal to the guy who only ever shoots at straw bale biff shoots, and to whom insurance is a waste of money, (far better spent on beer and fags). :unsure:

 

Perhaps we ought to follow the example of other Countries, and introduce competency testing and compulsory membership of an approved organisation, i.e. CPSA or BASC..??

 

Cat

 

Bjorn has been elected as a director - not chairman.

 

That is a competitive vote by membership from those nominated from the board.

 

It would be unusual for a brand new board member to be nominated for chairman, and with no directors track record I cant see the membership immediately electing a new director to the role. This is not to say he may not be capable, just that most of the voters will not know him or his capabilities, so an established board member is likely to be or remain chairman

[shaun4860]

I think you will find that the soon to be elected new Chairman, (Bjorn Waktare), will start the process of change that is necessary to broaden the appeal of the CPSA, however, let's not forget that the CPSA will never have much appeal to the guy who only ever shoots at straw bale biff shoots, and to whom insurance is a waste of money, (far better spent on beer and fags).

 

Perhaps we ought to follow the example of other Countries, and introduce competency testing and compulsory membership of an approved organisation, i.e. CPSA or BASC..??

 

Cat

 

 

Im a straw baler (ex A class skeet) who left after being told i couldnt change from registered to clubman, seeing as i stopped shooting registered.

 

they told me i had to leave for 13 months then rejoin........and they wonder why they lose members.....

 

NGO now.... :unsure:

 

SHAUN

Edited March 9, 2010 by shaun4860

[paulos]

Personally I think the Clubman needs scrapping and the whole system bringing in line. Let's hope whoever takes over will get some kind of strategy in place and rebuild some of the bridges between grounds/members and the CPSA.

[RC45]

I think they should be incorporated into BASC...

 

:unsure:

[clayman]

I think they should be incorporated into BASC...

 

:unsure:

 

cURRENTLY THE cpsa IS INVOLVED IN THE nats PROJECT WHICH AMALGAMATES IT WITH nra AND nsra - basc IS LARGELY A GAME CONSERVANCY, CLAYS WITHIN IT ARE A MINOR PART OF ITS REMIT, SO JOINING UP WITH THE OTHER SHOOTING TARGET SPORTS ASSOCIATIONS IS A BETTER PRINCIPLE.

 

Rats - caps lock fools Clayman again

[PhilR]

cURRENTLY THE cpsa IS INVOLVED IN THE nats PROJECT WHICH AMALGAMATES IT WITH nra AND nsra - basc IS LARGELY A GAME CONSERVANCY, CLAYS WITHIN IT ARE A MINOR PART OF ITS REMIT, SO JOINING UP WITH THE OTHER SHOOTING TARGET SPORTS ASSOCIATIONS IS A BETTER PRINCIPLE.

 

Rats - caps lock fools Clayman again

 

Not correct the CPSA withdrew from the project several months ago - headline news in PULL! magazine.

[Bloke]

I know I don't have the history on this that some of you guys have, but I must admit I wasn't impressed with the CPSA stand at Newark show. I had already discussed membership with the CPSA over the phone and decided on full disabled membership, despite that there are few grounds near me at present where I can compete, I feel it is a way of putting a bit back into the sport.

 

I had to produce proof of disability, so I said I would take it along to Newark and join there. When I arrived at the stand, I was met by two nice fellas, very friendly and all that, but they then emphatically denied even having a disabled classification, right up until I showed them their own form! :unsure:

 

Then they decided that there was no point in me joining as a full member, as I can't drive myself to competitions, but I should join as a clubman, they emphasised the money saving part of this at length (Maybe I look poor!). In the end I just said whatever, if you don't want my money, and signed the form, I can always change class later!

 

As I say, really friendly and pleasant guys, and I am sure they were giving their time for free and all that, but from an organisation supposedly dedicated to promoting competitive shooting etc, it seemed a bit 'half-cocked' (Maybe they have seen me shoot! )

[MC]

I think you will find that the soon to be elected new Chairman, (Bjorn Waktare), will start the process of change that is necessary to broaden the appeal of the CPSA, however, let's not forget that the CPSA will never have much appeal to the guy who only ever shoots at straw bale biff shoots, and to whom insurance is a waste of money, (far better spent on beer and fags).

 

Perhaps we ought to follow the example of other Countries, and introduce competency testing and compulsory membership of an approved organisation, i.e. CPSA or BASC..??

 

Cat

 

 

Jeeezz,

 

And you wonder why an organisation fails on more than one occasion. There seems to be a common denominator with all this and it is the Up their own **** elitists who look down on anything.

 

Insurance is a waste of money hey? Is that why I am a FULLY PAID UP member of BASC, NSRA, NRA and CPSA? Yes that is because I consider insurance to be a waste of money.

 

The CPSA is finished and Boakes knows it and has jumped off a sinking ship.

[clayman]

Not correct the CPSA withdrew from the project several months ago - headline news in PULL! magazine.

 

Oh, news to me, I understood John Perry was still on the CPSA payroll organising the NATS thing at the NSRA, so whatever level their withdrawal is, they are still involved to some degree if that is correct, but I might be out of date ( any-one JP still up at NSRA or not?) - but the point was that the CPSA should amalgamate with more similar bodies than BASC., ie going collective with Wales and Scottish clays associations, or working inside target sports - but CPSA joining into BASC would not fulfill the basic reason for CPSA's existence, to organise and control clay target competitions. BASC shoot clays as game practice, thats it, they are not and do not want to incorporate being a NGB for a target sport.

[clayman]

Perhaps we ought to follow the example of other Countries, and introduce competency testing and compulsory membership of an approved organisation, i.e. CPSA or BASC..?? Catamong

 

The CPSA has worked hard to provide a better alternative to compulsory membership and competency testing.

 

The CPSA recognised some years back that if legislators made the specifications for competency it was likely they would be as bizarre as some other bureaucratic legislation that is in place. It would be far better that a good appraisal structure was already in place and could be adopted by the Fire-arms licensing requirements if needed.

 

To this end 500 instructors have been trained and the Academy started, allowing any CPSA member to acquire a competency certificate at various levels.

 

This process has been paralleled by small bore, full bore etc so the standards are similar.

 

This means that the target fire-arms associations have in place a certification system that can be recognised and adopted if legislation were to require this, and for us shooters this is likely to be far better than a Brussels or Whitehall designed system

[Yorkshire Pudding]

Bitches be calm .... Cool it Bitches !!!

 

 

Blokes shootin dust 7 1/2 28g loads at dust .

 

I thought the whole job was to ENJOY yourselves , and get upset by the way you shot , not by the way the stuff you shot was chucked out of the "traps"

 

 

all the best yis yp

[RC45]

Well there are too many organisations and all this bickering between the organisations is not doing the cause any good. I say one organisation, CPSA, BASC, NSRA and NRA all in one and membership at £60.

 

Phil

[PhilR]

Clayman - When the CPSA directors pulled the plug on NATTS there was no job for JP to return to at the CPSA. He was working as the Secretary of British Shooting after Keith Murray resigned following the CPSA's removal of Phil Boakes as BS Chairman. However, JP resigned from that job at the end of last year - I'm told by a good source because no-one in BS would make a decision, they're still without a Chairman as far as I can understand.

[clayman]

Thanks for update

[DSPUK]

Mungler

 

Thanks for replying to Cat - you did it much more politely than I was going to do -- Like you I was A class when I dropped out of CPSA - I did it when fat slug was in charge - Now a member of NGO for insurance purposes and I do not drink beer.

 

Dave.

[Catamong]

Mungler

 

Thanks for replying to Cat - you did it much more politely than I was going to do -- Like you I was A class when I dropped out of CPSA - I did it when fat slug was in charge - Now a member of NGO for insurance purposes and I do not drink beer.

 

Dave.

 

It's a pity neither you nor MC took the trouble to read the post, my comments were not directed at guys like you who recognise the benefits of having insurance in place, but at those who don't give a damn.

 

You'll also not find any posts on here from me in support of the CPSA, I recognised long ago that they have major shortcomings, always have had and always will have, although these recent changes may be for the better, time will tell, but the fact is, if you want to achieve anything in this sport, you've got to be a member, fact.

 

Cat.