steve_b_wales Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Is there a law that restricts the use of a large caliber rifle for lamping? I have been told that the maximum allowed is .243. I have applied for a .270 for deer and fox, which the latter will be lamped. Any views on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie223 Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 aint you got enough guns lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted March 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 NO! And anyway, I would be part-ex'ing my .243. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albob Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 just out of curosity...is the 270 for occasional fox,as that will restrict you to day shooting,as you only shoot deer in daylight hours. hope you get it though. al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted March 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 That's what I wanted to know. If I can only shoot foxes at daytime with the .270, then I may as well stick with my .243. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albob Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 i suppose only your feo can answer that then. al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 i've never heard of any restrictions - surely they'd be listed on your license if that were the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albob Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 i've never heard of any restrictions - surely they'd be listed on your license if that were the case he has only put in for it and not got it back yet. so he does not know if their is any restrictions on it. i have rabbit and occasional fox on my 222.. is that a restriction. al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Depends on what you mean by occasional, every time I go out is occasional Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albob Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 (edited) Depends on what you mean by occasional, every time I go out is occasional my occasional is ...when i see one.. and i go out several times a week.. Edited March 13, 2010 by albob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 I used to shoot foxes with a 30-06. My .270 is free to shoot anything from a rat to a deer, so no probs for that calibre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted March 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Well I shot an occasional fox last night! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 You can lamp foxes with any calibre you like. Current acpo guidelines permit shooting lesser species, and most forces have changed conditions accordingly. Certainly if your conditions allow fox, you can use at night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordieh Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Hi Steve Wiltshire police have put fox on my 308 and a few yrs ago my mate shot one with his 300 win mag Cheers Geordie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Ther are no lamping calibre restrictions in England or the rest of the uk to the best of my knowledge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedark Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Ther are no lamping calibre restrictions in England or the rest of the uk to the best of my knowledge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted March 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Good news then. Lets hope that my police authority (south Wales) follow suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog546 Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Steve ,I have a condition for Fox on my 270 and advised them at the time I would be lamping with it,no problem with that,after all if the ground is cleared for centre fire of that calibre does it matter if its day or night,dusk or dawn! If you get it you need to get some Norma 110 grain ballistic tips as they are the buisness and not too dear,I did have a post showing the damage they do but it was removed as too graphic,if you think the 223 and 243 make a mess you aint seen nothing yet. Obviosly you need to be aware that you are firing a heavier round than the others at nearly the same speed so caution has to be paramount at night and familiarity of your ground,but its a lovely flat shooting round as yet thogh I havent had the chance to push it beyond 200 yards on a fox but have no doubts when the need arises. Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Ther are no lamping calibre restrictions in England or the rest of the uk to the best of my knowledge! Yes but if you have the condition on your license that says " and for shooting foxes whilst out stalking" then you obviously can't claim to be stalking after dark. Like has been said earlier, it wil have to depend on what conditions the license comes back with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Yes but if you have the condition on your license that says " and for shooting foxes whilst out stalking" then you obviously can't claim to be stalking after dark. Like has been said earlier, it wil have to depend on what conditions the license comes back with I take your point and potentially true, but also strange wording which I suspect will be changed on the next variation/renewal to the new ACPO guideline wording! Definition •stalk: a hunt for game carried on by following it stealthily or waiting in ambush •stalk: the act of following prey stealthily Interesting, and debateable, as the definition is poor on the FAC, there is nothing in the world to stop you walking around all night with your rifle "stalking" and simply waiting for one hour before sunrise before you pull the trigger...so what then if you see a fox at "night"? Frankly I suspect that wording is another ill conceived B***s up by yet another region attempting to flex mussles they don't have! Just my opinion of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted March 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 I spoke to my FEO before sending in my renewal for my FAC. I asked him would there be a problem if I asked for a .270 for Fox AND Deer. He said no, but at the end of the day, it's not really down to him. If I'm not allowed a .270 for fox ( on ground where there are no deer) I will contact BASC, and they can sort it out for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Swapping the 243 for a 270 mate ? Given up on a 308 then ? Hope you get it without restrictions this time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
game_boy Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 I take it the new rifle will be a T3! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 I take it the new rifle will be a T3! Tikka T3's-Brilliant rifles.I think Steve will get another T3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted March 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 The T3 Lite is in the running, but I'm going to see what else is about. (More than likely it will be a T3 though! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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