Mungler Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Ok, my eldest is having a debate at school and he is on the side arguing against animals being kept in cages. Apart from the usual "it's cruel and not on par with any animal's natural habitat" anyone got any truly genius points that no other 8 year old (or 8 year old's parents) will come up with? So, there's your homework for this evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 there is a higher risk of ricochet because of the bars and its just not sporting they should atleast be given the chance to run! no seriously though don't chimps and things go a bit mental if they don't have a large enough cage/habitat to move about in they start rocking all over the place i saw a thing on it same with lions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 'My parents thought it was cruel to keep me in my cage, and look at the results' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Ok, my eldest is having a debate at school and he is on the side arguing against animals being kept in cages. Apart from the usual "it's cruel and not on par with any animal's natural habitat" anyone got any truly genius points that no other 8 year old (or 8 year old's parents) will come up with? So, there's your homework for this evening. 'coz they are innocent untill proven guilty A minor offence like drunk and disorderly would be OK overnight but not if they get taken to the cells in a Panda Car! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyr8 Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 we lock people behind bars for doing something wrong and breaking the law.why punish animals for being animals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambu13 Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 becasue when they take over, they'll remember who was nice to them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 (edited) One of the main reasons that animals shouldnt be caged is because most animals if not all are territorial and need their own space to be relaxed in . Cage them up together in a small area and they become Paranoid . Animals are only caged for the benifit of humans , for food or for looking at in a zoo . Harnser . Edited March 22, 2010 by Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 keeping animals locked up in a cageis dangerous for them, if they ever get out/escape then they arent "streetwise" and can easily get killed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 The domestication of animals should be out of a need for food, not for personal pleasure. It is a part of mans evoloution to find ways of providing food, and this started with the domestication of sheep. We did this to make our lives easier through trade or to eat. Unless we are doing this for the sake of feeding ourselves and our family, then it is of no nutritonal or moral gain. If you want to go down the route of cruelty, its not really an issue as the level of conscious awareness required is not applied to most animals such as a budgie in a cage, or a chicken in a coup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Sweepy Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 He could take a skipping rope (or something like it)make a small circle.And make the teacher stand in it. Then he could ask them questions like 1, would they like to be in this circle for the rest of their life 2, Would they be happy to play, eat ,sleep and go to the loo in it 3, And while they did 1 and 2 would they be happy to be watch by thousands of people. Or have photos taken as they did so. xxxxSuzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted March 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 He could take a skipping rope (or something like it)make a small circle.And make the teacher stand in it.Then he could ask them questions like 1, would they like to be in this circle for the rest of their life 2, Would they be happy to play, eat ,sleep and go to the loo in it 3, And while they did 1 and 2 would they be happy to be watch by thousands of people. Or have photos taken as they did so. xxxxSuzy Mrs Sweepy, that is how I suggested he argue and sell it to the rest of the class. They don't get the high brow stuff, but given that none of them can sit still, stay quiet or confine themselves to their desks for more than 2 minutes - getting them to imagine sitting at their desk the whole morning with no break time, then the whole day, then sleeping there, then waking up there [and repeat until they die]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Its just not natural for an animal to be totally confined for its entire life.Despite most zoo animals being born in captivity-it dont take long for them to revert back to how nature intended when released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Sweepy Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I was going to suggest he locked them all in the store cupboard And then shout though the keyhole Now how do you like that. But i presumed you would like your little boy to finish his primary years that the same School he is in now. xxxxSuzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaman Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Opposite view ,some animals are alive today because of being in captivity if theydstill been inthe wild theyd be dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted March 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Opposite view ,some animals are alive today because of being in captivity if theydstill been inthe wild theyd be dead Yeah, but that would be what the other half of the class will be arguing about I'm not doing their homework as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berettaman Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Yeah, but that would be what the other half of the class will be arguing about I'm not doing their homework as well. [/quote Understood but it is a valid point ,try playing devils advocate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 So the argument is about marital harmony then, well being married full stop really. be carefull of the wife may get some new ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heladoxa Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 The domestication of animals should be out of a need for food, not for personal pleasure. It is a part of mans evoloution to find ways of providing food, and this started with the domestication of sheep. We did this to make our lives easier through trade or to eat. Unless we are doing this for the sake of feeding ourselves and our family, then it is of no nutritonal or moral gain. If you want to go down the route of cruelty, its not really an issue as the level of conscious awareness required is not applied to most animals such as a budgie in a cage, or a chicken in a coup. Then why does my parrot keep on at me, 'LET ME OUT, YOU ******* !!' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 (edited) There is plenty of evidence to show that caged animals engage in repetative, damaging behavior through boredom and lack of interaction. Knawing bars, head banging etc. Quite a good quote used in philosophy 'The question is not, "Can they reason?" nor, "Can they talk?" but rather, "Can they suffer?"' - Jeremy Bentham Edited March 22, 2010 by guest1957 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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