Robbo123 Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 I was walking my dog through some fields yesterday and I noticed that about 400-500 pigeons were landing on a pea field. I am going to ask permission today but when shooting on peas I will use my magnet and then some decoys on the floor but do they even see the decoys on the floor and is it actually worth putting them out??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONO Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 I was walking my dog through some fields yesterday and I noticed that about 400-500 pigeons were landing on a pea field. I am going to ask permission today but when shooting on peas I will use my magnet and then some decoys on the floor but do they even see the decoys on the floor and is it actually worth putting them out??? Yup - but put them (gently!) on the actual crop and be sure not to do more damage setting out your pattern and whirly than the pigeons are doing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 You need to get your decoys to stand above the crop. If you have shell decoys you can place them on top of the crop, on windy days I still put my eezy woblers on the shells and stand the shell on the crop, the ezzy wobblers arent long enough to insert into the ground but they add a bit of weight to the shell so they don't get blown over. You will need to use different methods depending what types of decoys you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 iv got both full shell and half shells i put stick on them both and just balance them on top pea s also try and find a area with a bit of damage easy er to set up on and dont flaten crops down once they see them they we pill in to decoy patten fingers crossed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roly Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 Another trick when decoying over standing crops is to buy some cheap netting from the garden dept at say Wilko's(only a couple of quid). Peg this out with 4 bamboo sticks the same height as the crop and lay your shells on this. Stops them being blown off the crop when its a bit windy and keeps the decoys where they can be seen easily. Cheers Roly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_T Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 I have used bamboo canes and attached the spring-sticks to the canes using insulation tape. That way as the crop gets taller I can re-adjust the overall height of the spring-sticks and hence the half-shells. This way, any breeze and the decoys move accordingly over the top of the crop. Each cane was about 10p at the local hardware shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 I have used bamboo canes and attached the spring-sticks to the canes using insulation tape. That way as the crop gets taller I can re-adjust the overall height of the spring-sticks and hence the half-shells. This way, any breeze and the decoys move accordingly over the top of the crop. Each cane was about 10p at the local hardware shop.ill have that top tip cheers fella swiss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big simmo999 Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 I do the same as Dr T - ecept I split the top of the cane and insert my easy wobbler down the split and then tape round it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topgunners Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 If you have any of the "z" sticks and would like to contact ukshootwarehouse they sell extension bars which are shaped to take the z wobblers. I use them and can adjust the shell decoys to any height I want above the pea crops. Dave K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewis 682 Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 I was walking my dog through some fields yesterday and I noticed that about 400-500 pigeons were landing on a pea field. I am going to ask permission today but when shooting on peas I will use my magnet and then some decoys on the floor but do they even see the decoys on the floor and is it actually worth putting them out??? Hi mate, what area are you from? pigeons not really bothering with any of the peas i`ve been watching!! cheers Lewis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo123 Posted June 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 From yorkshire and no they are landing on beans i got it muddled up!! but i am guessing that the same principles as described above apply to shooting them on beans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted June 28, 2010 Report Share Posted June 28, 2010 Are you sure they're Wood Pigeons, as they don't eat beans this time of year, only when they're drilled or after they're cut.. Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo123 Posted June 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 i will sent pictures if u really want!!! yes they are woodies! and it is a bean field! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo123 Posted June 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 and this website suggests that they do land on beans look at http://www.thehuntinglife.com/html/section...n-shooting.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 and this website suggests that they do land on beans look at http://www.thehuntinglife.com/html/section...n-shooting.html I'm wholeheartedly with Cat on this one...Beans??? Not at this time of their life cycle. and that site doesn't suggest that pigeons land on beans as a matter of course...Only if they’ve been damaged i.e. layed! I'd check your crop recognition! You might see a few landing in a bean crop to feed on weeds etc but if those beans are at the growth stage they should be by now the birds will not be feeding on them. I'm not saying it's impossible as woody is full of surprises but it's highly unlikely and much more likely the 'hunter' has got it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 and this website suggests that they do land on beans look at http://www.thehuntinglife.com/html/section...n-shooting.html Don't believe all you read on the web, you've only got to look at this Forum to know that..?? They will not feed on beans at this time of year. Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 (edited) i just had a look at how many pigeons shot by members this year and protom has put a post on saying he shot 16 on a bean field before farmer came to spray the field. Edited June 29, 2010 by yickdaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asap Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 They wont be eating beans but I've seen them in past years feeding on chickweed or other weeds growing with or under the bean crop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 i just had a look at how many pigeons shot by members this year and protom has put a post on saying he shot 16 on a bean field before farmer came to spray the field. Well, good for him, as, unlike Robbo 123, he knows what he's talking about, I've also shot many hundreds of Pigeons on beans before the Farmer has sprayed the field, but at this time of year Pigeons are simply not interested in feeding on beans, FACT. The birds may well be picking up the rubbish chickweed and other volunteer junk that grows alongside the beans, but they won't be touching the beans. Keep an eye on the field until after it's harvested, and then beg or bribe the Farmer to leave the field un-ploughed until next January and you will then have some superb sport. Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Shooting birds on a bean field is completly diffrent from shooting birds feeding on a bean field . There are many wise old hands on this site and if they are shot on a bean field at this time of year it will because they are feeding on chickweed not beans as birds only eat beans not the plants themselves. Kind regards OTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo123 Posted June 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 Ok unlike many of you I have lived on a farm all my life and know what ******* bean field looks like so no i dont need to check my crop recognition!! And secondly I have just shot 42 on the bean field yes a ******* bean field today so hmmmmmm!!! U GUYS REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiball Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 then you shouldn't ask for advice if you cant take it. living on a farm doesn't mean you know what your on about. must be a lot of chickweed in that field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 (edited) I was walking my dog through some fields yesterday and I noticed that about 400-500 pigeons were landing on a pea field. I am going to ask permission today but when shooting on peas I will use my magnet and then some decoys on the floor but do they even see the decoys on the floor and is it actually worth putting them out??? You said there where landing on a pea field so being a farmer lad you should have know there where beans straight away . From yorkshire and no they are landing on beans i got it muddled up!! but i am guessing that the same principles as described above apply to shooting them on beans. Now you said you have made a crop reconingtion error and now said it beans make your mind up If you look at my profile you will note that not only that I grew up on a farm I also managed a farm sold seeds to some of the largest arable farms in the south of england so dont need any tips of crop knowledge . Also your reply to some of us and the way you have typed it will get you know where on this forum or if you talk to others in day to day life . A little respect to older wiser pigeons shooters will unlock a greater knowlegde that you can pass on to others to enjoy. As you seem to be quite young how old are you 16 17 years old?? So have a little think you may well have shot birds over a bean field I have but if you open there crops there will not be beans in there or any bean leaf etc. It will be a weed or grit as at this time of year when birds are feeding on cerals they need grit to grind to aid digestion and some fields have a high amount of grit. Keep up the questions but just be a bit more polite as having a load of you F%%%%ing T$$$sers I know what I on about etc does not wash . Kind regards OTH Edited June 30, 2010 by Over the hill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 i agree they are not eating the beans or the leaf but does it matter if you have pigeons on the crop and a flightline the principles stay the same as it would shooting over any crop;i shot 90 in may on a germinated wheat field the shoots were 4 ins tall so no seed left on it and they was not eating the wheat shoots but chickweed and bits of young rape growing amongst it but the same fieldcraft applied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 The guy initially asked about putting deeks on peas (read his request for info) then decided the peas were actually beans which the wiser among us queried. Now he's giving us an ear bashing. What more can you do...lead a horse to water! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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