Tikka M55 .243 T8 mod for sale may split no RFD though sorry

[mosa]

As titled due to not getting out as often as i would like this is in good condition few small marks on the stock shoots very good groups with everything that goes through it. comes with some privi ammo if needed. T8 again is in very good condition, Rifle has very a clean bore. Sorry no pics at present. but will get some sorted also comes complete with leather sling. Any viewing or trial welcome. no time waisters though. Will need to get it proofed before i sell it . Price as follows.

 

seperate

 

mod 1/2 unf £150 collected or + RFD costs to you

Gun £320 with 1" optilock ring set up etc.

aprox 40-60 rounds of 100grn ammo

 

package £440 :blink:

 

serious offers considered

Edited July 6, 2010 by mosa

[Billy.]

Can not RFD as not proofed after being screw cut.

 

It is against the law to sell a rifle which is out of proof, regardless if it's to an RFD or not.

 

..Sorry

[mosa]

It is against the law to sell a rifle which is out of proof, regardless if it's to an RFD or not.

 

..Sorry

 

I think your wrong mate!!

[Billy.]

I think your wrong mate!!

 

This is the excerpt from the firearms law.

 

24.3 The proving of firearms is governed by the Gun Barrel Proof Acts of 1868, 1950 and 1978. Under these Acts it is:

a) an offence to sell, exchange, expose or keep for sale, or export, or keep for exportation, or to attempt to sell, exchange or export, or to pawn or pledge, or attempt to pawn or pledge, or to take in pawn or pledge, an arm, the barrels of which are not duly proved and marked as proved;

 

24.7 Schedule 1 of the 1978 Act also provides that barrels bearing duly registered proof marks of a foreign state shall be exempt from the liability to prove. If the barrel is altered by any means except user wear and tear so that it no longer represents the proof to which it would be subject in the official proof house of the state in question, it shall cease to be exempt.

Edited July 6, 2010 by Billy.

[mosa]

so can a rfd sell you a gun after he has screw cut it? without proofing it?

[Billy.]

so can a rfd sell you a gun after he has screw cut it? without proofing it?

 

No, it needs to be sent to the proof house, which explains why an RFD will charge you £100+ to get a rifle cut. If they sell it without proofing it, it's against the law.

 

I've been wanting to sell one of my rifles for a while now, but I've not, because I need to get it proofed beforehand.

 

If you turn up at an RFD and get your rifle cut, that's fine. It's still your rifle and it's not being sold.

[PESCA]

I think you'll find that 'Billy' is correct.

 

If you have a gun screwcut, it's okay not to be proofed as long as you hang onto it.

 

To offer the same gun for sale, it has to be proofed, IMHO.

 

PESCA

[mosa]

If you turn up at an RFD and get your rifle cut, that's fine. It's still your rifle and it's not being sold. :blink: I bought one from an rfd then he screw cut it for me before i picked it up so is that ok?

[Billy.]

If you turn up at an RFD and get your rifle cut, that's fine. It's still your rifle and it's not being sold. :blink: I bought one from an rfd then he screw cut it for me before i picked it up so is that ok?

 

Yes, that's fine, because you bought an uncut rifle. It was then subsequently cut under your licence. I too have had this done on three of my rifles now, but to sell them, they require proofing.

 

I say 'require proofing' becuase that's exactly what's written on the Proof House's memoranda on muzzle accessories.

 

Birmingam Proof House Memoranda

 

EDIT: Some RFD's will require you to get it proofed, as it may be a risk to their insurance policy.

Edited July 6, 2010 by Billy.

[garyb]

Be careful.

 

What Birmingham proof house say, and then the law - can be two different things.

[PESCA]

That's fine, as he screwcut it on your behalf. It was effectively your gun.

 

He will only have charged the basic fee for screwcutting (I assume) and not the much higher price for screwcutting and proofing. He has no control over proofing fees as they are set by the Proof House.

 

PESCA

[Billy.]

Be careful.

 

What Birmingham proof house say, and then the law - can be two different things.

 

True, but the law is written above and it spells it out quite clearly :blink:

[cleaner4hire]

This link (para 6 onwards) is interesting

 

edited to add; that memo reads to me that whenever you have a screwcut done you have to have it proofed - not just upon sale.......

Edited July 6, 2010 by cleaner4hire

[mosa]

ok then thanks for that :blink: . The gun will now be proofed before being sold so still for sale

[hodge911]

i,ll swap you for a pair of blue hunter wellies size 9 :blink:

 

you aint had it long, keep a hold of it mate and get up the range

Edited July 6, 2010 by hodge911

[rabbithunter]

If Mosa sell,s then gun the way it is now to a private buyer and the private buyer is happy was the rifle the way it is now ! is this ok ?

[magman]

If Mosa sell,s then gun the way it is now to a private buyer and the private buyer is happy was the rifle the way it is now ! is this ok ?

 

:blink: Needs to be in proof or breaking the law

[bk]

Unless by screwcutting, he hasnt weakened the barrel. Then he wouldnt need a reproof.

Its a very grey area

[markm]

How many shotguns have been sold in this country that have had a couple of inches lobbed off the end after proofing to reduce choke? 100's if not 1000's.

How many rifles have failed proofing after screwcutting? I predict 0%

How many rifles have been sold after screw cutting and not proofed? 100's if not 1000's

How can you ID a rifle that was screw cut in the factory then proofed in the UK?

Edited July 6, 2010 by markm

[lee-kinsman]

Best thing to do is take it to birmingham proofing house and they'll proof it, stamp it and give you a cetificate otherwise your rifle will not be able to sell it or swap it or gift it.

 

Lee

 

Details below,

 

The Birmingham Gun Barrel Proof House, Banbury Street, Birmingham B5 5RH, England, Tel. 0121 643 3860, Fax 0121 643 7872

[Billy.]

How many shotguns have been sold in this country that have had a couple of inches lobbed off the end after proofing to reduce choke? 100's if not 1000's.

How many rifles have failed proofing after screwcutting? I predict 0%

How many rifles have been sold after screw cutting and not proofed? 100's if not 1000's

How can you ID a rifle that was screw cut in the factory then proofed in the UK?

 

Yes, all valid and mostly true points.

 

There's a difference between 'subtly getting away with it' and openly saying you're selling an unproofed firearm (not that the OP realised, so I'm not pointing the finger/blame)

I'm just off to do some drink driving. (see my point?)

Edited July 6, 2010 by Billy.

[cleaner4hire]

Unless by screwcutting, he hasnt weakened the barrel. Then he wouldnt need a reproof.

Its a very grey area

 

I think this bit is the problem with screwcutting and reproofing, vague firearms legislation, now fancy that, the UK firearms legislation being difficult to interpret!!!

[bk]

And the main people voicing their concerns are the only people profiting from getting it done.

[shaun4860]

Well im in the "sell it locally and you should be ok "camp

 

I dont see a problem with it.....

 

And actually you could sell the rest of the kit and give the new owner a FREE rifle.....(providing he has a slot on his cert)

 

there is no law to say you cant give away an unproofed rifle

 

shaun

 

As an addage, i bought a sako quad (standard), it had no proof marks at all, i had it chopped and reproofed and it came back covered in proof marks

 

Mosa, it cost me just over £30 to get it reproofed at Weldon

Edited July 7, 2010 by shaun4860

[markm]

mod 1/2 unf £150

1" optilock ring set up etc.

aprox 40-60 rounds of 100grn ammo

package £440

serious offers considered

 

Comes with a free Tikka M55 in .243.

 

I can also confirm the accuracy of this FREE rifle, it actually improves your shooting as mosa cannot shoot such good groups.