duck shooter 1 Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 my grandad has a .410 shotgun in his loft which is atleast 50 years old and has never left that room in about 46 years so he wouldnt have needed a licence back then.But im wanting to have his shotgun but i dont no how i could get it because someone needs to give it to me as a gift off there licence because im under 17 years old ,but my grandad dosent have a shotgun certificate so how could i get it legally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Im pretty sure if you take it to a RFD they will register it then put in on your certificate. The Police know guns surface from elderly or deceased relatives propertys and all they want is for them to be registered to someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Find a friendly RFD and explain the situation to them, there is a way to do this but recent events may make it more tricky. There may be a charge for entering it onto your cert but speak to the about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 (edited) I would be very careful, these things can go horribly wrong if you get the wrong police officer dealing with it. My advise to you in all seriousness is to leave sleeping dogs lie until after your grandfather has died and then "find" it. In the mean time get yourself a licence and bide your time. Buy yourself a shotgun if you want one. As it stands at the moment your grandfather could go to prison for having an unlicenced shotgun and there are a few coppers out there who are big enough ********* to prosecute him. Its only a .410 at the end of the day. Don't risk it for a £50 gun. Edited July 11, 2010 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Hunt Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 (edited) I would be very careful, these things can go horribly wrong if you get the wrong police officer dealing with it. My advise to you in all seriousness is to leave sleeping dogs lie until after your grandfather has died and then "find" it. In the mean time get yourself a licence and bide your time. Buy yourself a shotgun if you want one. As it stands at the moment your grandfather could go to prison for having an unlicenced shotgun and there are a few coppers out there who are big enough ********* to prosecute him. Its only a .410 at the end of the day. Don't risk it for a £50 gun. Ignore me, edited as I thought better.... Edited July 11, 2010 by Gene Hunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattslaptop247 Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 I Its only a .410 at the end of the day. Don't risk it for a £50 gun. I think we might be missing the point here . This £50 gun probably has huge sentimental value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Still not worth 5 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duck shooter 1 Posted July 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 thats what im thinking might happen if i go and get it i could go to jail so like Vince Green said i will wait a bit longer for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duck shooter 1 Posted July 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 (edited) thats what im thinking might happen if i go and get it i could go to jail so like Vince Green said i will wait a bit longer for it. thanks for the advice Edited July 12, 2010 by duck shooter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh warrior Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 take it to your rfd and he will have to look if it in proof if it is not he will have to brake it up asap if it is in proof then he will send away to the police saying you found it and you never knew it was there etc the police will look to see if it has been used in any crimes and will look at the proof them selfs if all is ok then you can have it back only if you got a sgc but like some say some times if can go wrong but very rare the police know whats going on they dont miss anything and im sure if you get a sgc and save etc then all will be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh warrior Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 take it to your rfd and he will have to look if it in proof if it is not he will have to brake it up asap if it is in proof then he will send away to the police saying you found it and you never knew it was there etc the police will look to see if it has been used in any crimes and will look at the proof them selfs if all is ok then you can have it back only if you got a sgc but like some say some times if can go wrong but very rare the police know whats going on they dont miss anything and im sure if you get a sgc and save etc then all will be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 (edited) On the other hand look at the recent story, widely reported in the press, of a man who found a sawn off shotgun that had been thrown over his back fence. He took it into his local police station where he was arrested and charged with illegal possesion. The case went to court and he was found guilty. Some RFDs may be amenable, some police may be understanding and a bit flexible in their approach. However, you cannot be sure and you cannot take it for granted. I would be suprised if any unlicenced gun "found" and handed in would be returned to you. It certainly wouldn't round these parts. I know in more rural areas they are still a lot more laid back about these matters. Edited July 13, 2010 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjimlad Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 On the other hand look at the recent story, widely reported in the press, of a man who found a sawn off shotgun that had been thrown over his back fence. He took it into his local police station where he was arrested and charged with illegal possesion. The case went to court and he was found guilty. Some RFDs may be amenable, some police may be understanding and a bit flexible in their approach. However, you cannot be sure and you cannot take it for granted. I would be suprised if any unlicenced gun "found" and handed in would be returned to you. It certainly wouldn't round these parts. I know in more rural areas they are still a lot more laid back about these matters. That bloke was a wally, he had held onto it for ages, didn't tell the police what he was coming in to see them with/about, just turned up days after he had found the gun & pulled it out in an office. There's stuff on this in the Home Office guidance to the police - loft finds etc - agree an rfd is the best route to take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 My local RFD and police where fine when I added my Grans 410 to my ticket no problems this week!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 In this case an RFD cannot give you the gun back as you are under18 and they can't gift you guns AFAIK, best option leave it there or hand it in. Have a chat with your RFD if you know him well and see what he thinks some will help some won't. If its sentimental you could have it deactivated and be able to keep it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Find a friend who is willing to help (an adult with a SGC) go with him the RFD having pre warned him get him to check the gun and take it on his books he the get it registered and your friend buys it back cost me £3.50 (the cost of a pint when we had a beer later that night). Your friend then gives it you in line with any other shotgun. I may have been lucky and get on well with the RFD and FEO, we all shoot together, but it seemed straight forward. Before others say I know some can be diffcult at best!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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