Shadowchaser Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 I've been shooting for a few years now but not frequently enough. I have never had any shooting lessons as such. I am right eye dominant, and shoot right handed. I have always closed my left eye and looked straight down the top rib. This does make my face fatigued after about a dozen shots though. However I have spoken to people who say I should shoot with both eyes open. I have dry mounted my gun and if I keep both eyes open and look down the barrel (at this stage only at a static item in my house), I see the top rib in double ie cross eyed. If I focus on the front sight the item in the background becomes double crossed. How will I go on trying it with clays? Is it wise to start off both eyes open and then close one for the kill? I realise this may have been discussed before, but I find it an interesting point. And any advice that will help me to hit more clays is welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 (edited) Both eyes open all the time Don't look at the gun, just the clay, and trust that your gun is pointing where you're looking You can be aware of your gun as a blur, but the clay wants to be sharp, and it won't be if you look at the gun/sight. Edited August 14, 2010 by Chard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 i shoot with one eye closed,been doing it for so many years, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 i shoot with one eye closed,been doing it for so many years, Well he's already said he doesn't want to be doing that, as it makes his face fatigued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J@mes Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Get to a coach and ask him/ her to assess what you should be doing. Might cost you £50 for an hour, but if it sorts your shooting out..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluke2 Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 (edited) I've been shooting for a few years now but not frequently enough. I have never had any shooting lessons as such. I am right eye dominant, and shoot right handed. I have always closed my left eye and looked straight down the top rib. This does make my face fatigued after about a dozen shots though. However I have spoken to people who say I should shoot with both eyes open. I have dry mounted my gun and if I keep both eyes open and look down the barrel (at this stage only at a static item in my house), I see the top rib in double ie cross eyed. If I focus on the front sight the item in the background becomes double crossed. How will I go on trying it with clays? Is it wise to start off both eyes open and then close one for the kill? I realise this may have been discussed before, but I find it an interesting point. And any advice that will help me to hit more clays is welcome. Sounds to me that your left eye dominant, right eye and right handed should give a clear picture not crossed or blurred of the clay,try a little trick, take a piece of card and poke a 5mm hole in the centre look through at a small object with arms extended then slowly move toward your face with the card the eye that keeps the object lined up in the hole is the dominant one. Edited August 14, 2010 by fluke2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Sounds to me that your left eye dominant, right eye and right handed shouldgive a clear picture not crossed or blurred of the clay,try a little trick, take a piece of card and poke a 5mm hole in the centre look through at a small object with arms extended then slowly move toward your face with the card the eye that keeps the object lined up in the hole is the dominant one. c.d. works great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluke2 Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 c.d. works great Modern technology eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 meant to check if hole is 5mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 checked 15mm (nowt better to do) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 check this site www.easyhit.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Both eyes open all the time Don't look at the gun, just the clay, and trust that your gun is pointing where you're looking You can be aware of your gun as a blur, but the clay wants to be sharp, and it won't be if you look at the gun/sight. best one given so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad93 Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 You have to be looking at an object further than 10 yards away if with both eyes open without seeing double i find. I see double when i first got told to use both eyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowchaser Posted August 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Both eyes open all the time Don't look at the gun, just the clay, and trust that your gun is pointing where you're looking You can be aware of your gun as a blur, but the clay wants to be sharp, and it won't be if you look at the gun/sight. That may be the trouble. I have always looked down the rib at the sight so that the gun is clear but then logic dictates that the clay isn't clear. Next time I shoot I will do what you advise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowchaser Posted August 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 You have to be looking at an object further than 10 yards away if with both eyes open without seeing double i find. I see double when i first got told to use both eyes This is what happens when I dry mount in my house, the objects I'm aiming at are less than 10 yards away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowchaser Posted August 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Sounds to me that your left eye dominant, right eye and right handed shouldgive a clear picture not crossed or blurred of the clay,try a little trick, take a piece of card and poke a 5mm hole in the centre look through at a small object with arms extended then slowly move toward your face with the card the eye that keeps the object lined up in the hole is the dominant one. I have tried this good test and I am right eye dominant. However I haven't ever fired at a clay with both eyes open yet, but I believe I would see a clay clearly. It's just getting over this business of seeing the gun as a blur that concerns me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluke2 Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 I have tried this good test and I am right eye dominant. However I haven't ever fired at a clay with both eyes open yet, but I believe I would see a clay clearly. It's just getting over this business of seeing the gun as a blur that concerns me. Then try to forget the gun dont aim see the clay point and shoot try not to be aware of the barrels watch the target, it s hard but once you get used to it theres no going back. seeing the gun as a blur could mean your long range vision is better, do you wear glasses for reading.this could be another factor,my short range vision is **** but long range spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad93 Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Having both eyes open is a advantage too. It means you can track the clay better and on very high birds you will have trouble shooting the bird if you can't see if because the barrels are blocking the line of the clay. On birds where you need to give maybe 20ft of lead it can't be done with one eye closed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 I have tried this good test and I am right eye dominant. However I haven't ever fired at a clay with both eyes open yet, but I believe I would see a clay clearly. It's just getting over this business of seeing the gun as a blur that concerns me. It is difficult to have faith in where you're pointing the gun, but you can test your mount in the house or garden. Look at something, like a leaf in the garden, then mount the gun, without taking your eyes off the leaf. When you've mounted it comfortably, you can take your eyes off the leaf and look at the sight. Hopefully, you will be pleasantly surprised that you're aimed straight at the leaf. If you're not, you need to work on your gun mount a bit. With practise, you will find that you start to instinctively mount the gun so that it points at whatever you're looking at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 It is difficult to have faith in where you're pointing the gun, but you can test your mount in the house or garden. Look at something, like a leaf in the garden, then mount the gun, without taking your eyes off the leaf. When you've mounted it comfortably, you can take your eyes off the leaf and look at the sight. Hopefully, you will be pleasantly surprised that you're aimed straight at the leaf. If you're not, you need to work on your gun mount a bit. With practise, you will find that you start to instinctively mount the gun so that it points at whatever you're looking at. Good point he makes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Good point he makes... There are gook in wire, glasshopper..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthitathing Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 There are gook in wire, glasshopper..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preece3 Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 right open as cant see much out my left so that works for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthitathing Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 Due right eye dominance and shooting cack handed, I closed one eye when I first started. I use a foil on my shooting glasses now which seems to work. Given my scores though you'd think I closed both eyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 SOmething i have spent plenty of time on being RH with Left eye dominant and worse vision from right eye i started shooting RH one eye open, now shoot LH both eyes open, its much better with both eyes makes judging speed and distance easier and much better peripheral vision to see the traget (big difference on sporting less so on trap!) Find a coach you like and work with them I am trying to have one lesson a month and trying to shoot once a week although not going very well at at the moment.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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