tikka.223 Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Has anyone got a Zeiss Duralyt 3-12x50 scope,how good are they,etc? Any other in that price range I should consider? TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 I'd suggest putting a few more pennies together and plump for a S&B or Swaro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeker Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 (edited) I was told that they are like an up-priced version of the conquests for europe..?? Tho zeiss never seem to make a bad scope there's always choice at that level. Have you browsed 'RMacleod.co' he usually has some tasty options - especially in 'as new' with manufacturers warranty'. Edited August 22, 2010 by seeker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsportshooter Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 For £580 They're a cracking buy. They dont suffer from the old eye relief problems and are well built (the turret covers are a little bit naff though).. Excellent glass for the cash and at that price you wont mind if you scuff it whilst out in the field. For a quality 30mm tubed 3-12 x 50 you wont get anything like it for the money - and as for swaro and S&B yes they are very pretty and of excellent build quality but using my (mark one human) eyeball I cant notice the difference in the optical quality. If you want quality on a moderate budget go for the Zeiss - If you have money to burn go for the S&B or Swaro - or alternatively take your chance against the scope vultures on here (you may get the first posted reply on a good second hand swaro) but I doubt it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tikka.223 Posted August 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Just to add the main use will be lamping foxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tikka.223 Posted August 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 (edited) If you have money to burn go for the S&B or Swaro What about the S&B 8x56 Hungarian klassik,couldnt justify spending anymore than £550-650 on a scope. Edited August 22, 2010 by tikka.223 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsportshooter Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Nice to have the big objective (but it causes issues re mounting and due to its high mount causes other issues with short range shooting especially if trying to shoot small stuff on occaision) - also your fixed with the 8x which I found too much for general shooting and not enough for that 'getting out there one' people rave about fixed power but I'd rather have the option of leaving it at 8x or opening it up for those close shots. With a .223 you gonna want to take hares etc at closer range and it helps to be able to open up the scope + that extra 4x power (ie 12x) helps with head shots at longer range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsportshooter Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Oh and yes - I do own one and dont work for them. And I recently swaped in a S&B 8x56 for a nightforce 2.5 - 10 x 50 with 30mm tube for my hmr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tikka.223 Posted August 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Oh and yes - I do own one and dont work for them. And I recently swaped in a S&B 8x56 for a nightforce 2.5 - 10 x 50 with 30mm tube for my hmr How do you find the Nightforce? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Hunter Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 i have a duralyt 3-12x50 v good its on a223 remington vs 10 out of 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Nice to have the big objective (but it causes issues re mounting and due to its high mount causes other issues with short range shooting especially if trying to shoot small stuff on occaision) - also your fixed with the 8x which I found too much for general shooting and not enough for that 'getting out there one' people rave about fixed power but I'd rather have the option of leaving it at 8x or opening it up for those close shots. With a .223 you gonna want to take hares etc at closer range and it helps to be able to open up the scope + that extra 4x power (ie 12x) helps with head shots at longer range not sure about the mounting issues never seen them, mine fits on standard medium height mounts, also not sure about not being any good for close stuff, 3 out of 4 of these when asked their preference didn't mind being shot at 25 yards, usually its more an issue with the shooter and zero if you can't hit them close that said there are times on long range stuff when more magnification would be better just depends what you shoot. I can take rooks at 250 yards with mine and really have little need for much more then that. A nightforce on an HMR is nice if you've got the money but a little overkill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie g Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 (edited) you could get a conquest for less then that and have more mag Edited August 25, 2010 by jamie g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 (edited) I have one on my 243, my mate has one on his 270 Sauer (which he swapped out for a Swarovski as he didn't get on with the reticle) and I think, for the money, they're superb. Clear, sharp picture, no blurring round the periphery and although the turrets are a little cheap looking the rest is absolutely bob on. Good quality German optics for little money. Not sure where you get them for £580 though, I payed £630 and SGC has them in for £665, My mate paid £690 for his. Edited August 23, 2010 by mick miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newsportshooter Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Just a few retorts to the points rasied. 1.Re the hight issues I was refering to both my Sako Quad (which needed high mounts to get the 56mm objective on) and my Scout which needed (Extra High Mounts to get the objective to fit) Obviously the higher the mounting the more deviation there is between line of fire and the scope line (I'm sure theres a name for this...) which basically means you have to alter your aim to allow for this deviation as you shoot targets closer or further away from the zero distance. 2.The nightforce I have on the hmr is an old one but its still a good one - And I dont think 2.5 - 10 x 50 is too much for an HMR. As for what I think of the scope itself, I think its quality even if they are built in Japan...... I actually traded an old 8x56 S&B for it and dont regret it.. 3.As for the £580 - well that would be telling but if you really want to know PM me and I'll let you into a secret. Regards Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 So are the zeiss duralyt poorer quality,(and cheaper) than schmidt and benders? I always thought zeiss were more expensive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie g Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 So are the zeiss duralyt poorer quality,(and cheaper) than schmidt and benders? I always thought zeiss were more expensive? the zeiss duralyt range come out for people that wanted good zeiss optics but not at the price the zeiss victory range was. so there are going to be some differences the victory is the dogs bits. but at a price. imo the conquest is very hard to beat for around £500 to £550 pound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodmedod.one Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 What about the S&B 8x56 Hungarian klassik,couldnt justify spending anymore than £550-650 on a scope. The reticle is too fat for long range foxing/lamping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeker Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 I found most of the scopes seem to have reticles that were too fat - probably designed for europigs . Then I found an S&B with a 'Fein' reticle' much better, even a slimline bunnigirl couldn't hide behind it. Seems you have to check the reticle data in the handbook and then ask for it. ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie g Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 i have the ir mildot on my victory. im not a fan of mildot but as there small mildots it doesnt put me off at all. so the rectical doesnt seam to busy. the 60 ret is the one i wanted but couldnt find one at the time. the standard 20 plex on the conquest is very good for both target and hunting. as the crosshairs are thick. so you can lock onto what your shooting at fast .but as the meet at the cross in the middle they go thin so it doesnt cover the target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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