Ireland's Finest! Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 How can I encourage my recentely acquired terrier to go into an earth? Or will it be a case of letting his natural instincts do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 How old is it? what is it? what colour is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyboots Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 whats it colour got to do with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Yeah what does colour have to do with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gedney Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Yeah what does colour have to do with it? Maybe it s a bit yellow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker boy Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 It will enter when it is ready.There is nothing you can do to encourage it to go to ground.Some dogs never go to ground whilst others wont stay above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulpicide Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 What age is the terrier? what breed? have you worked terriers before? was there anything in the earths you tried? The question you asked would suggest you may not have a great deal of experience with working terriers and as it is one of the most difficult types of dog work and full of danger to the terrier and the terrierman with the legal implacations maybe you should join a local terrier club before you go any further PM me if you need more advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 whats it colour got to do with it If the lad didnt have a clue what his dog was i thought it might make it easier to identify to offer some advice. A hard black dog is different to a baying russel . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveyb Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 What age is the terrier? what breed? have you worked terriers before? was there anything in the earths you tried? The question you asked would suggest you may not have a great deal of experience with working terriers and as it is one of the most difficult types of dog work and full of danger to the terrier and the terrierman with the legal implacations maybe you should join a local terrier club before you go any further PM me if you need more advice. I couldn,t agree more as someone who has kept terriers for a lot of years my advice is STOP what you are doing immediatly. This has huge implications for you and your dog! Your dog may well lose its life at worst and you will end up in serious trouble! Follow the advice above before you do anything else with this dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyboots Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 If the lad didnt have a clue what his dog was i thought it might make it easier to identify to offer some advice.A hard black dog is different to a baying russel . ive seen many a hard russell and many a baying black dog so as i say colour has nothing to do with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millrace Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 serriously dont waste your time with wanting a dog to go to ground its only a pain in the *** when they do,,,,make good with having a good hunter cause when u ave to either dig it out or wait for hours till it decides to come out or go home without it cause a badger just killed it you will eally wish you hadnt asked the question.................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Pudding Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 Just like women . SOME DO !!!! SOME DON'T But it's from racey stock , you'll stand more chance . all the best yis yp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hezbear Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 serriously dont waste your time with wanting a dog to go to ground its only a pain in the *** when they do,,,,make good with having a good hunter cause when u ave to either dig it out or wait for hours till it decides to come out or go home without it cause a badger just killed it you will eally wish you hadnt asked the question.................... A terrier in my opinion should be able to do it's job underground but like you mentioned about badgers, you should know the land in case there is any badger setts meaning the dog will be on the leader to avoid a possible jail sentence . If you know some one local to you who has working terriers then ask if you and your dog can tag along, keep your dog on the leader though and let it listen to the other terrier working it's quarry. As Vulpicide said join a club and don't attempt a dig by yourself to start with as the risk to the dogs and quarry is enormous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ireland's Finest! Posted September 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 I surprisngly dont no what breed he is. I think he might be a cross breed. He's mainly black with light blondy strikes. He also has a long white mark going from his chin down(like a badger colour), I've tried to get him into earths but he doesnt seem interested at the moment, I just plan on taking him with me every time I go out in the fields and hopefully I'll come across a fox when out with the shotgun and he can get a scent of him then etc.. or hopefully one day he'll just get the notion to go underground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 serriously dont waste your time with wanting a dog to go to ground its only a pain in the *** when they do,,,,make good with having a good hunter cause when u ave to either dig it out or wait for hours till it decides to come out or go home without it cause a badger just killed it you will eally wish you hadnt asked the question.................... Is probably some of the worst advice I have heard in my life. My Father has owned terriers all his life and very rarely needs to dig. Also you can usually tell what holes have badger or fox (i.e. smell, tracks and foxes will use the same earths year after year). If you have a good terrier that is bolting foxes regularly you will rarely have to wait longer than 30mins unless its a difficult bolting hole or there are cubs. I surprisngly dont no what breed he is. I think he might be a cross breed. He's mainly black with light blondy strikes. He also has a long white mark going from his chin down(like a badger colour), I've tried to get him into earths but he doesnt seem interested at the moment, I just plan on taking him with me every time I go out in the fields and hopefully I'll come across a fox when out with the shotgun and he can get a scent of him then etc.. or hopefully one day he'll just get the notion to go underground. At this time of the year there will be very few foxes in earths; they will be lying out in cover with the warm weather. The dog maybe wasn't interested because there was nothing about the earths. If you shoot a fox I would take it to the terrier and encourage it to have a chew at it; this way it will know what it is looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 ive seen many a hard russell and many a baying black dog so as i say colour has nothing to do with it OK mate im sorry for trying to help an inexperianced terrier man out, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyboots Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 OK mate im sorry for trying to help an inexperianced terrier man out, if you call that trying to help a inexpericaned terrierman out then god help us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Now, if i had told him to take it to the nearest earth and force it to ground i could understand your last comment but as i suspected the lad has no idea what he has got, I was simply trying to find out more about his dog. I dont really see the crime. Did you not get a jump last night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 As you dont even know what kind of dog you have i would try and find someone local that could help you out and like a few have said dont go pushing it in holes willy nilly as that is a good way to end up in big trouble. If the dog looks like a working type.The best way to bring a young dog on or give one a try would be to find a cub in a drain.What you are looking for is a dog that is aggresive underground and makes a racket with the odd bite here and there but you dont want a terrier that runs head long till it hits fur and then tries to kill whatever is infront of it..unless you like digging and vets bill's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDFrain Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 take the good advice that has been given..... 1 Dont force the dog it will go in its own time 2 Go out with other experienced terriermen and let the dog make its own mind up. You will know when the switch is flicked 3 Never ever ever put a dog to ground without a good quality locator (bellman / ortovox) 4 Know how to look after your dog after he has been to ground, as they can get badly hurt depending on the dogs aggression. 5 Access to good quality first aid. 6 Be prepared for change in dog personality / behaviour (possibly) 7 dont do the job unless you have the right gear. Only a couple of things to consider before considering working a dog to ground JDF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertan_J Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Definitely go and join a club or find someone who will take you out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyboots Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Did you not get a jump last night? :look: think im on for a jump tonite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxnet22 Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 if he,s from working stock he,ll be in when he,s ready .lot of good advice been given here from members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 Do you think he is just a bit green? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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