deejay Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 You must be kidding. It's been done to death on here. You can get a .22LR for £150. I'd start with that and go from there. I tell you just how tempted I am to do that . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 I tell you just how tempted I am to do that . Same rifle as mine, except my stock's nicer. £125 plus you get a scope. http://www.guntrader.co.uk/GunsForSale/100626155840002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 All rested I take it lads? Think u can head shot a hare at 150 yrds free standing? Unsupported? Just to clarify things about the way that I shoot: All of my shots at any "Coin sized targets" are always taken in the prone with a bipod! When taking any shots at live quarry I will always try to find something to rest on if a prone shot is not possible or at the very least I will take a kneeling or sitting shot or shoot "off the sticks"! There is no wat that I would consider myself anywhere good enough to take a free standing shot at any live quarry at any range beyond about 50 yards! I don't know if the question was being asked of me by "The Running Man" but I have put this up just in case anyone wants to question the way that I shoot. I do like to think that I respect all live quarry and have no desire to cause any unessary suffering to any live creature through careless or poorly aimed shots that are outside my capabilities! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the running man Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 (edited) Just to clarify things about the way that I shoot:All of my shots at any "Coin sized targets" are always taken in the prone with a bipod! When taking any shots at live quarry I will always try to find something to rest on if a prone shot is not possible or at the very least I will take a kneeling or sitting shot or shoot "off the sticks"! There is no wat that I would consider myself anywhere good enough to take a free standing shot at any live quarry at any range beyond about 50 yards! I don't know if the question was being asked of me by "The Running Man" but I have put this up just in case anyone wants to question the way that I shoot. I do like to think that I respect all live quarry and have no desire to cause any unessary suffering to any live creature through careless or poorly aimed shots that are outside my capabilities! Frenchieboy I've total respect for you're honesty and admission of position of shooting,nothing wrong with it,personally past 80m myself sometimes more depending on how well I'm doing,I got a head shot hare at 150m free standing. Wich due to my being in the zone as it were that nite,and. Still conditions I took the shot, if I missed ide have not followed it up, I aimed 4 inches above its head and was rewarded with I clean instant kill,(pix to follow). I attribute this free standing unsupported to doing club postal leaugue targets of which I do ok at and I believe it stands me in good stead for free stranding rabbit shooting. I'm not always at my best and do rely on sticks at further distances,as I do with center fire rifle unless kneeling or prone. I encourage anyone that wants to better their shooting to join a local club. Thanks frenchie. here it is. my first hare,as i usually let em go usualy,but theres loads on one bit of permission,so my buddies and me agreed it would not decimate the population,witnessed by themacclad from on here,and one other. Edited October 24, 2010 by the running man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 Have used both the HMR and .22lr ,and have to say that although I'm very impressed with the HMR at long range,I still prefer my .22lr.You just can't beat them for lamping from the Landie..one shot with the HMR and they're all gone. A mate is thinking of getting a Mach2.I know the HMR is a necked down .22 mag' case with a 17grn head,and the Mach2 is a necked down .22lr case,and I'm assuming the head is still 17grn.Sounds interesting but I know of no-one who has one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 they're all out today, removing a rabbits head with a .22lr come on mate just admit you've never fired one its less embarrasing than making it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 (edited) they're all out today, removing a rabbits head with a .22lr come on mate just admit you've never fired one its less embarrasing than making it up I didn't even spot that, I just read he'd shot one in the head and stopped reading Edited October 24, 2010 by Billy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the running man Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 (edited) picture added,as said b4 this is my 1st hare,and witnessed by themaclad on here and one other,150 yard free standing.loads of them on this one peice of permisson so we agreed this would not decimate the population. Edited October 24, 2010 by the running man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groach1234 Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 (edited) Thanks again and I have fired one just the once at a live target and it took the head off from 30 yards away.I have though never fired a .17hmr to be homest and was just wondering why people seem to preffer this calibre of rifle . Because a hmr will take a rabbits head off at 150 yards + or the half the exit is on at least. G Edited October 24, 2010 by groach1234 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejay Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 they're all out today, removing a rabbits head with a .22lr come on mate just admit you've never fired one its less embarrasing than making it up Sorry I forgot to be precise .I didnt realise this was a nit picking forum on which we have to be so accurate about anything that we may describe doing as to prove it was done . What I have to prove to you is zero ,as I myself know exactly what I shot and what happened when I shot it . Yes I do and have a witness but why should I have to prove myself to anybody especially one that seems to be so intent on rubbishing some members of the forum . And I would also like to point out that due to not owning a Fac I would almost certainly of had to have a Fac holder present while using it. The only peson that needs to feel any embarrasment is the silly fool that has all day to read topics and point out other peoples mistakes ,how sad and get a life . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh warrior Posted October 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 GUYS !....i was only asking whats the effective range of the 17 hmr and what could it do if you push it out over the effective range ... now come on we are all big boys here ..this is not aimed at anyone just saying you both could be right ... and thanks for the info from all ...im only 19 haha lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 (edited) I have shot my furthest rabbit at around 175yd mark..possible 200yd mark not sure....but one thing is for sure, it still kills at that distance! I have no doubt it would do through that ply with ease at 200yds, because bullets that are made for fierce expansion usually penetrate more at longer range due to no bullet opening... Steve Edited October 25, 2010 by stevethevanman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 (edited) Sorry I forgot to be precise .I didnt realise this was a nit picking forum on which we have to be so accurate about anything that we may describe doing as to prove it was done .What I have to prove to you is zero ,as I myself know exactly what I shot and what happened when I shot it . Yes I do and have a witness but why should I have to prove myself to anybody especially one that seems to be so intent on rubbishing some members of the forum . And I would also like to point out that due to not owning a Fac I would almost certainly of had to have a Fac holder present while using it. The only peson that needs to feel any embarrasment is the silly fool that has all day to read topics and point out other peoples mistakes ,how sad and get a life . I'm sorry Al4x but I am with mtbarrel on this one mate. As you know I use my 17HMR more than quite a lot of people, I am out just about every day that the weather and the wife allows me to be rabbit shooting with it. I have lost cound of the amount of rabbits I have had (at different ranges from about 25 yards right out to over 100 yards) where the 17HMR 17gr bullet has done that much damage that well over half the head has been missing. Admittedly I have never had on that has completely lost it's head (Well not with the HMR anyway even if I have done it with the .222) but I most certainly have had them where there is not a lot left of the head mate! Maybe the wording by mtbarrel was not the best but please mate, there is no valid reason for tearing the bloke apart for that! Please don't be offended by this Al4x but it is possible for a 17HMR to do a lot more damage than some people think - To prove the point i will try to find the video where you can see me clearly taking the top co a rabbits head clean off with a 17HMR - I will add it on an edit shortly. Edit: Here is the video that I was looking for. Watch carefully at about 20 seconds in and you will see the top half of the rabbit's head fly right off. I do have some photos of the gamage that the 17HMR can do but they are far too graphic and messy to post on an open forum - If you really doubt or want to see then send me your e-mail address! Edited October 25, 2010 by Frenchieboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 frenchie he stated he removed the head with a .22lr at 30 yards, just doesn't happen. Not nit picking at all but it doesn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 frenchie he stated he removed the head with a .22lr at 30 yards, just doesn't happen. Not nit picking at all but it doesn't My mistake then Al4x, I didn't notice that bit. With that being the case then I offer you my unreserved appology if there was any offence taken! (I think you know that the last thing I want to do is to offend anyone anyway mate) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 My mistake then Al4x, I didn't notice that bit. With that being the case then I offer you my unreserved appology if there was any offence taken! (I think you know that the last thing I want to do is to offend anyone anyway mate) don't worry got a fairly thick hide here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejay Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 I can clearly see that , the FIGURE OF SPEECH does not go down to well on this forum with some members being .Yet again fussy about how or what happened . I could edit the WORDING for senior alex but why should I .I think we all know and have probably said it all ourselves in conversation that after shooting a rabbit that the shot took or nearly took its head off . It would be very interesting to hear what people say about some of there shots and how they explain them in general conversation i would be a bit concerned if I ahd alex there listening in just in case he picked up on my wording ,but saying that why would he be out shooting when he obviously has more important things to do with his time .Like pick up on silly miss worded coments. So just for you I am going to do ........................nothing ,my words will stay the same . Had you on the other hand asked if it had took the head off the rabbit I may of been different ,but no you just assume that I am just another bulls***er .Well assume as you may silly man ,me I would you rather multiply and go fourth . Regards Darren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejay Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 I'm sorry Al4x but I am with mtbarrel on this one mate. As you know I use my 17HMR more than quite a lot of people, I am out just about every day that the weather and the wife allows me to be rabbit shooting with it. I have lost cound of the amount of rabbits I have had (at different ranges from about 25 yards right out to over 100 yards) where the 17HMR 17gr bullet has done that much damage that well over half the head has been missing. Admittedly I have never had on that has completely lost it's head (Well not with the HMR anyway even if I have done it with the .222) but I most certainly have had them where there is not a lot left of the head mate!Maybe the wording by mtbarrel was not the best but please mate, there is no valid reason for tearing the bloke apart for that! Please don't be offended by this Al4x but it is possible for a 17HMR to do a lot more damage than some people think - To prove the point i will try to find the video where you can see me clearly taking the top co a rabbits head clean off with a 17HMR - I will add it on an edit shortly. Edit: Here is the video that I was looking for. Watch carefully at about 20 seconds in and you will see the top half of the rabbit's head fly right off. I do have some photos of the gamage that the 17HMR can do but they are far too graphic and messy to post on an open forum - If you really doubt or want to see then send me your e-mail address! Ps Thanks Frenchie and I woill not be losing any sleep over it as I would imagine that the majority of people would know what I mean anyway by the saying . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 frenchie he stated he removed the head with a .22lr at 30 yards, just doesn't happen. Not nit picking at all but it doesn't I really really really don't want to get in a scrap here, but it can, I did it at 50 yards with a bunny a couple of years ago, Magtech 40g Sub sonic HP, the rabbit leapt an incredible distance in the air and when I got over to it there was next to nothing left of the head. It is certainly unusual to cause quite so much damage with this type of round but it happened! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the running man Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 I'm sorry Al4x but I am with mtbarrel on this one mate. As you know I use my 17HMR more than quite a lot of people, I am out just about every day that the weather and the wife allows me to be rabbit shooting with it. I have lost cound of the amount of rabbits I have had (at different ranges from about 25 yards right out to over 100 yards) where the 17HMR 17gr bullet has done that much damage that well over half the head has been missing. Admittedly I have never had on that has completely lost it's head (Well not with the HMR anyway even if I have done it with the .222) but I most certainly have had them where there is not a lot left of the head mate!Maybe the wording by mtbarrel was not the best but please mate, there is no valid reason for tearing the bloke apart for that! Please don't be offended by this Al4x but it is possible for a 17HMR to do a lot more damage than some people think - To prove the point i will try to find the video where you can see me clearly taking the top co a rabbits head clean off with a 17HMR - I will add it on an edit shortly. Edit: Here is the video that I was looking for. Watch carefully at about 20 seconds in and you will see the top half of the rabbit's head fly right off. I do have some photos of the gamage that the 17HMR can do but they are far too graphic and messy to post on an open forum - If you really doubt or want to see then send me your e-mail address! great video mate,will have to teach me how to edit and upload etc. well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 Frenchi thought you wood have hit the centre of the 20 p lol nice shooting mate awsum round them 17 are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejay Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 I really really really don't want to get in a scrap here, but it can, I did it at 50 yards with a bunny a couple of years ago, Magtech 40g Sub sonic HP, the rabbit leapt an incredible distance in the air and when I got over to it there was next to nothing left of the head. It is certainly unusual to cause quite so much damage with this type of round but it happened! Hi and Thanks Dekkers ...............Though not that I needed proof ,as I had stated my term took its head of was just a figure of speech ,but there will always be the know it alls (yes you all know who you are) and then there are the decent people that just ...............well know . Regards Daz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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