triscrx Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 Been looking at one of these today. Mega light! do they suffer with more recoil due to the weight and do they last? Just seems odd being made of Aluminum. quite fancy one and I reckon they will handle well being so light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 Frachi's are alloy too and very light, yes more recoil, but less weight to carry all day. I know a guy who regulalry shoots geese with an ultralight!!! Possibly not the gun to shoot 3-400 carts a day with... just adjust the cartridge selection to suit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moz Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 Like marmite. I love mine 28g 6's for pheasant the recoil is ok. Should last OK due to the titanium inserts. Not the gun for a busy day pigeon shooting though :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 Great rough shooters gun but the increased recoil is noticeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 They are a very nice gun, with 28G cartridges you do feel the recoil, if using one for clays, you would be better off using 21G cartridges. For holding one all day on a game shoot don't think you can go far wrong with this gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triscrx Posted December 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 I only do the odd 100 clays on a day. Otherwise it will be used for rough shooting and decoying pigeons. Are they likely to hold their price in the future with a strong secondhand value like the other berettas? If I buy one new I will keep it for some years and would like to get a decent price for it when selling it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moz Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 For 100 clays I have/would use 21g. Not sure I would like to use it regularly decoying though. A day of shooting 32/30g pigeon carts is going to end with a sore shoulder. I suspect they will hold value as well as any other Berretta, plus they are less common.Mine is probably worth as much if not more than I paid for it, although thats more down to the euro exchange rate than anything else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 After a 100 clays through it you will know that you have put the 100 cartridges through it if using 28G ones. I felt it after putting a few though it. I don't know enough about the ultra light and its second hand value in the future. I have seen it committed that as it is so light it is not one of the more popular beretta's, I was looking at one earlier and ended up with a silver pigeon game gun as it suited my needs better. In my opinion the ultra light is good if you are out all day, but not going to shoot 100's of cartridges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 I know it is a long ish way from you but Treetops in Newport http://www.treetops-sporting.co.uk/ Andrew the owner has an ultralight which is his own gun but sometimes get used for lessons I am sure he would let you use it if you asked nicely and tell you all about it, and what he has shot with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 The second hand ultra light delux I was looking at, has now been sold and that was only sale for a couple of weeks before being sold, I think it was being advertsed at £1325 ish to give a rough idea of second hand value, but can't remember exactly, which was as new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 I have one and id throughly recomend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triscrx Posted December 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 I usually use 28g cartridges and if the kick is going to be an issue I don't want to drop to 21g to suit. I think I need to try one and see how it feels. I love the finish and general feel for the price. with VAT going up soon want to make a decision sooner rather than later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 I usually use 28g cartridges and if the kick is going to be an issue I don't want to drop to 21g to suit. I think I need to try one and see how it feels. I love the finish and general feel for the price. with VAT going up soon want to make a decision sooner rather than later Don't dismiss lighter cartridges, I've been using 24gram ones recently and they are a pleasure to use. They pattern really well and seem to kill clays as well as the 28's ever did. A friend bought a new Ultralight last year and it did seem a bit bumpy on the clays, he soon sold it. I bought a 6 1/2lb Beretta 391 Urika Light at the same time and it is truly a fantastic gun that soaks up recoil but not suitable for organised shoots cos it is an auto. You can use it or carry it all day with ease though and of all my guns it is the keeper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triscrx Posted December 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 I had a 391 Urika for a while and loved that. very good for rough shooting but at the clay ground being a semi they don't like it. That's what led me to get the 682 Gold E and following that the 686E. Just dont like not having a shotgun at the moment the cabinet is looking a bit empty with just the rimmies in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 I had a 391 Urika for a while and loved that. very good for rough shooting but at the clay ground being a semi they don't like it. That's what led me to get the 682 Gold E and following that the 686E. Just dont like not having a shotgun at the moment the cabinet is looking a bit empty with just the rimmies in there. Autos are very popular at the ground where I shoot, I have a sling on mine and throw it over my shoulder between stands so safety or silly orange flags aren't an issue. I never ever really notice the recoil from this Urika Light regardless of what I put thru it. Had my first ever ducks with it this morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 (edited) Don't dismiss lighter cartridges, I've been using 24gram ones recently and they are a pleasure to use. They pattern really well and seem to kill clays as well as the 28's ever did. Have to agree with sitsinhedges on carridge choice, I like many others were using 28G cartridges, I have now (or will do once I have used all my 28G's up) switched to Hull comp X 21G a brilliant cartridge and even my semi cycles them. Think the only time I will move up from the Hull 21G is if the semi can't cycle them after a full days shoot of 250 cartridges. I still hit the cays just as well if not a touch better with the lower recoil. Edited December 24, 2010 by BerettaSV10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermitpwee Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 (edited) The ultralight is the best of the light 12 bores out there. I had one and it was a cracker, I have since moved on to 20bores which will kill anything apart from geese. I would buy a Beretta 20bore 687 for rough shooting as they are light and have a slim forestock and I feel they are miles ahead of the ultralight but then I shouldnt make a comparison as one is a 12bore and the other a 20bore. The ultralight can feel muzzle heavy to carry due to the ergal action been so light. There is a fixed choke version of the ultralight that would balance better but the bottom barell is rifled with a open choke for woodcock shooting and I think is only available in 26inch. Other options are Benelli woodcock 12 bore very light gun with 24inch barells I'm getting a 20bore version, class! Winchester 101 xtr fixed choke, very light gun absolute cracker very sorry I sold mine, for me love the straight stock versions choked 1/4 and 1/2. Edited December 24, 2010 by kermitpwee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbust Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 I have the ultralite 28" multi choke and have used it extensively over the 5 years that I have had it. I am well pleased with it and as has been said with lighter cartridges it is a treat to shoot although I have also fired 30g and regularly still do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Burpster Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 The Ulralight is an awesome O/U and I loved mine - I sold mine to my best shooting mate - bewteen us we have owned it for 12+ years- It is a superb driven or walked up day gun. As mentioned if you use it with loads more that 1-1/4 oz you will know about it - use it with 1oz loads (and less) and you can shoot it and carry it all day. If you are sensitive to recoil then you may want a heavier gun. Dont worry about it being an alloy action, that gun has fired in excess of 10k runds and is still tighter than a Scotsman.... (sos fellas only kidding!) I only sold mine as I have gone to and stayed with 20g (if Bertta made an ultralight in 20g I'd have it in a flash) but if I needed a 12g again it would be one of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triscrx Posted December 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 Thanks for the feedback guys. Hopefully they will have an Ultralight at the clay ground I am going to tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 Superb gun, looks good is light....but....it thumps!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triscrx Posted December 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 Had a look at one today and Im very pleased with the finish and general feel. Matey in the shop said it is ideal for rough shooting and the odd clay day but if shooting 2-300 cartridges it will hurt. Love the woodwork. £1550 it was up for (28'' barrels multichoke) just going to shop about now for the best deal. New VAT rates on 4th January so its a race Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triscrx Posted December 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Yet more mixed feedback today from another RFD. I mentioned the main use would be rough shooting and the occasional 100 Clays and they said oh no.. These are no good for clay shooting! I think the reason I'm really drawn to them is the Gold Decor and finish to it for the ££. They also had a Secondhand Ultralight Deluxe for £995 with Multi-chokes. Few marks here and there but for the price it seems very reasonable. Also alot cheaper than the previous RFD I visited to view one. £1350 for the entry level Ultralight today new. :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 A friend has the ultra light delux and bought it second hand in as new condition, the wood work on it is amazing. At the end of the day he bought for a specific job which is to be able to carry it around all day in the field, but not fire hundreds of cartrdges at clays with it. For clays he has a sporter shotgun. The price does appear to be a good price, but without seeing the gun, knowing its age, what the wood is like and what use its had its hard to put a price on it. For comparisions in prices its worth checking the guntrader websites. I think this is one gun that does get mixed reviews for both shops and forums when asked about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triscrx Posted December 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Yes I'm beginning to get the idea this is a 'Marmite' situation. Been reading up that the Kick-eeze pads do reduce the additional kick quite considerably as well. Sadly I find the other Beretta's for the same sort of ££ lack the looks that make the Ultralight stand head and shoulders above them. All the other Silver Pigeons and similar models I have looked at at the £1k-£1500 mark are quite plain and generally boring. I know performance is the main aim but when parting with that sort of £ it would be nice of Beretta to make it nicer to look at. When out rough shooting on a good day I will prob only fire 50 Cartridges and as I mentioned maybe once every 2-3 months I have a 100 clay pigeon practice shoot. Trouble I find is everyone has their own opinion as with cars so when going for one its best to go with what feels right and fits the budget. Shouldering the Ultralight felt right and like something I could work with. And ref the decor it ticks the boxes. Just have to wait and see what happens now. Shooting one would help out alot with deciding I think. Anyone in the Plymouth / Cornwall areas own one that wouldn't mind meeting up? Tris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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