Bowen20 Posted December 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 how come a 1:12 is a 1:9 bad or something sorry i dont know much about reloading or twist rates i will get the hang of it all when i start hopefully soon. i read that the stock flexes when using a bi-pod. and you have changed the trigger on yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Faster twist rates are really for target shooters, who need to shoot heavier bullets than those used in the field. Most of your shooting will be foxing... in that case you want something in the 40-55grn weight range, and therefore a 1 in 12 twist would be better for your needs. see - http://www.6mmbr.com/223rem.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen20 Posted December 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 ahhhh i see thanks for the link that helped alot. and thanks for the info/advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 a 1:9 shoots 55 grain bullets absolutely fine unless its very windy or you want to shoot long range targets there isn't much need to go heavier, lightest I used were 45 grain and they shot fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 (edited) a 1:9 shoots 55 grain bullets absolutely fine unless its very windy or you want to shoot long range targets there isn't much need to go heavier, lightest I used were 45 grain and they shot fine And for some reason my .223 T3 Lite Stainless with a 1-8 twist is also very happy with 55g SP or Ballistic Tip which is what it gets fed almost exclusively! Edited December 30, 2010 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Found this on guntrader brand new is £675.00 or there is a second hand one for £475.00 read a couple of review about them and they are supposed to be quite good i dont normaly go for the synthetic look i prefer wood but im quite taken with this. Remington .223 700 SPS TACTICAL 1:9 twist. Thanks for your advice so far it has given me alot to think about. £500 would get you a new Browning A-Bolt (they're 1 in 12 twist), plus they have both a floor plate and a box magazine - best of both worlds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen20 Posted December 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Hmmmmm just been looking at them they look very nice I think I will have to go to the shop and have a closer look a lot of people it seems have been replacing the trigger with a jewl one? That's what I've read so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Hmmmmm just been looking at them they look very nice I think I will have to go to the shop and have a closer look a lot of people it seems have been replacing the trigger with a jewl one? That's what I've read so far. Yes I'd heard that too although it is adjustable. I have to say though I'm a bit fussy about triggers. I did both my CZ's with a YoDave Kit but found the Browning to be crisp and consistent straight out the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasher Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 a 1:9 shoots 55 grain bullets absolutely fine unless its very windy or you want to shoot long range targets there isn't much need to go heavier, lightest I used were 45 grain and they shot fine Absolutely. It also gives you the opportunity to go heavier and long if tats what floats your boat . You'd struggle to do that with a 1:12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasher Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 I'd take the 308 for that Al4x Seeing as Gary's 308 is only zeroed for 100m IIRC take him up on the challenge but stick the targets up at 280m to 350m plus or minus the odd cm. The money would be virtually in your pocket before a trigger was pulled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Actually... it's not zeroed for anything right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 that may be a challenge GB Have to say I'm eyeing up a sako 85 finlight at the moment and it is a very nice gun the reason I'll probably splash out is a I will have the money and b I want a gun I can take stalking and its a lovely weight if you have to carry it far. and there is a c which is its going to be a keeper so for a gun that I will probably have to re barrel at some stage its worth having one that is worth re barrelling Dont do it, get a used 75 put a McMillan hunter stock on it (a direct Sako 75 stock rip off) and re-barrel if required - it will be a far better gun and stock similar in weight and handling but lots better than the trash that Berretta as turned Sako rifles into. Besides finlight stocks are plastic rubbish that are very difficult to bed well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 I tell you go and have a closer look at the Tikka T3!You won't regret it if you buy one! ATB in whatever you choose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 Savage 12 BTCSS or 25 LV-T. Whereas I offer no comment regarding the quality of these, at the moment I would do nothing until you've checked availability. The UK importer is in the middle of a change-over so unless you find somewhere with something on the shelf, you may just encounter (no pun intended) a delay. Hope not too long, I'm after one! Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhawk Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 (edited) . Edited January 1, 2011 by silverhawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhawk Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 (edited) All tikkas and sakos only come in 1 in 12 twist to the uk now if you want a 1 in 8 its a 6month special order wait. Edited May 31, 2011 by silverhawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 My sako 85 223 laminate hunters coming up for sale cheap soon its a year old and not a mark on the gun thats a 1 in 12.Im buying the 85 bavarian instead in 1 in 8 twist.All tikkas and sakos only come in 1 in 12 twist to the uk now if you want a 1 in 8 its a 6month special order wait. Beautiful rifle,sheer quality!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 (edited) Not sure where this is going, and I probably missed something earlier, but Tikka is owned by Sako, and Sako is owned by Beretta. My understanding is these days barrels for both come off the same production line. Sako have the edge on manufacturing detail/quality/finish/etc (they tend to take all the best wood for example), but the Tikka offer a more competitive price and generally shoot VERY VERY well out of the box! For a good rifle at a reasonable price which will satisfy most peoples requirements the Tikka is worth a serious look, but then, so to are some of the Remingtons, Howas, etc, etc! ATB! Edited January 1, 2011 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 I still think the T3 out the box shoot ability is hard to beat.... Remingtons - great but need trigger replacements, and howa's - well we've all heard the scare stories on here about them ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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