lazarusthealmighty Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 I was out yesterday hunting rabbits on a golf course. An hour into hunting, I noiticed lights across the field. First there was one and then there were around 6. There was a helicoptor aswell, which only meant one thing... police. A police officer approached me and asked what we were doing there. I explained how I was hunting rabbits with the owners permission and showed him proof/documents. The cop said how someone had seen us and reported us because the day berfore someones house had been robbed, near the golfcourse. They went after that... ALWAYS HAVE PERMISSION DOCUMENTs!!!! It was only my seconds time out hunting1 :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Always have your permission and licence with you,i do but not every one on here thinks its important,might ghange their mind after reading your post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) Phone the police to let them know where you are shooting and get the incident number, phone them again when you have finished and quote the incident number, it stops and saves a lot of problems.Plus have all your documents. bakerboy Edited January 22, 2011 by bakerboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckaroo23 Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 i had to the called on me twice now as i shoot by a busy road never asked for any thing but i alway have my licence and permission paper work in my car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 always worth phoning in to the police if shooting golf courses or near residential, it tends to avoid that situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 so you wer seen out with a gun and a helicopter and 6 cars turned up 1 cop approached you and spoke?? bit strange its not a legal requirememtn, i dont have any permission slips, its all verbal so nothing to carry i do call in to the copshop if i am shooting in town though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Same as above - just verbal permission. Live in a rural area so people used to shooters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duncan Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 I always have signed permission on me by the landowner/manager when out shooting (and of course fac/sgc as applicable) butI only inform the police of my shooting intentions on one of my shoots because it is close to town and I once had someone stop and lean on the horn ! Not sure why. I gave him the thumbs up and a wave. Funny thing is, if I had have been a crazed gunman, surely he sould have been asking to get shot? People do still surprise me occasionally 5 minutes later the old bill turned up in force, so I stood and waved to give them my position and was asked if I was coursing rabbits (1 rifle but no dog - townies!) Anyway, the years of carrying my written permission finally came in very handy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 i am a member of a wildfowling and pigeon club we have a council owned country park and a couple of schools on our books that we clear rabbits from .So we phone the police that we are on this land and they give us a URN number this save a lot of time and trouble,we also phone the police if we are on farms where the public have a right of way , all the permits are held by the club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarusthealmighty Posted January 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 so you wer seen out with a gun and a helicopter and 6 cars turned up 1 cop approached you and spoke?? bit strange its not a legal requirememtn, i dont have any permission slips, its all verbal so nothing to carry i do call in to the copshop if i am shooting in town though around 8 followed after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Why should you inform the police you are going about your legal pastime, do golfers tell the police every time they play a round? Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duncan Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Why should you inform the police you are going about your legal pastime, do golfers tell the police every time they play a round? Ian. Purely for the convenience of Not having the boys in blue pile round just because Joe Public has seen 'a man in a field with a gun'. If they are pre-warned they can deal with the person on the phone and tell them its legit Members of the public don't often call the cops about men roaming close-mown fields with clubbing weapons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 (edited) I would,nt dream of ringing the old bill to tell them i was shooting-its not a legal requiurement but if people keep doing it then one day it may be.I,ve been shooting over more land than i care to recall in the last 35 years and never carried my certificate or had any written permission.If the old bill want to waste their time and resources traipsing around feilds or sending thousands of pounds worth of wirly birds up to find out what i,m doing then good luck to them-they have to balance the books at the end of the year(shame they didnt send one up when my caravan got nicked instead of telling me "we know where it probably is sir-but its an invasion of these peoples human rights to go and search for it") Edited January 23, 2011 by bruno22rf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Phone the police to let them know where you are shooting and get the incident number, phone them again when you have finished and quote the incident number, it stops and saves a lot of problems.Plus have all your documents. bakerboy incident number so it's recorded as a crime then? cos if it is your not helping matters Why should you inform the police you are going about your legal pastime, do golfers tell the police every time they play a round? Ian. Quite right Ian, I would not do it either Purely for the convenience of Not having the boys in blue pile round just because Joe Public has seen 'a man in a field with a gun'. If they are pre-warned they can deal with the person on the phone and tell them its legit Members of the public don't often call the cops about men roaming close-mown fields with clubbing weapons erm no they wont, any report and they will still have to attend, they will not fob joe public off when a firearm 'incident' is reported IMHO anyone phoning in is just setting a standard which may be enforced at some time in the future, you may not give a damn right now but you will when your shooting liberties go down the pan, we already have enough big brother going on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 that's rubbish about having to attend - i've been phoned a couple of times by the old bill to confirm whether it was me that had been reported - i confirmed it was and that saved god knows how many thousands of pounds of taxpayers (that's you and me) money from putting a chopper in the air and sending out a half dozen patrol cars. it shouldn't be a legal requirement, and in a lot of rural situations it's unnecessary, but if you shoot in close proximity to the urban general public take some responsibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 that explains how bird ran amok in cumbria unchallenged by police, may be he phoned it in first :blink: but seriously i don't think it'd happen in north wales, they'd still be out, any excuse for a bit of terrorist training Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsm1968 Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 (edited) When and where in the country did this happen? There are some police helicopters grounded due to lack of funds, and most do not fly until a ground force have requested it. The police are well aware guys are out shooting all the time. This over reaction sounds like a training exercise or who ever phoned in must have made it sound like you were an immediate threat. (like looking in windows or the like) The idea of self regulation by reporting everytime I go out shooting is ******. We are answerable for enough nonsence with out reporting to the police every time we want to legaly persue our sport. Edited January 23, 2011 by gsm1968 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 (edited) I will never, ever ring the police if I'm out shooting, never, unless they make it law. Its no business of theirs, their response will be no different if I've told them or not. Edited January 23, 2011 by kyska Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 if we don't ring in then eventually the police will get sick of wasting their time and will start telling people who phone in to stop being so paranoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duncan Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 that's rubbish about having to attend - i've been phoned a couple of times by the old bill to confirm whether it was me that had been reported - i confirmed it was and that saved god knows how many thousands of pounds of taxpayers (that's you and me) money from putting a chopper in the air and sending out a half dozen patrol cars. it shouldn't be a legal requirement, and in a lot of rural situations it's unnecessary, but if you shoot in close proximity to the urban general public take some responsibility. Yep me too. My local force is actually quite pragmatic, and they very nicely requested a call as a courtesy if I'm anywhere where Joe Public was likely to see, get jittery/anal and put a call in to plod. I don't object to this and would rather have the old bill on my side and not swooping on me every other time I'm out on the edge-of-town permission. I only have one shoot that this applies to, I never call in about the more rural shoots I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 that's rubbish about having to attend - i've been phoned a couple of times by the old bill to confirm whether it was me that had been reported - i confirmed it was and that saved god knows how many thousands of pounds of taxpayers (that's you and me) money from putting a chopper in the air and sending out a half dozen patrol cars. it shouldn't be a legal requirement, and in a lot of rural situations it's unnecessary, but if you shoot in close proximity to the urban general public take some responsibility. So the cops have your mobile number and when they get a call joe public about a shooter on a certain piece of land they say "i wonder if thats nickbeardo" and ring you up? Wow!:o Have you told the police all the permissions you shoot on? Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty1967 Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 surely some of us are out all the time not just occasional or weekend shooting.do we call in several times a day each time we leave the house.doesnt seem the way to go to me. matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 or as we move during the night from one permision to another, i have 4 which are back to back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentKill Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 or as we move during the night from one permision to another, i have 4 which are back to back Oddly enough i got a new golf course permission the other week, shot it for the first time the other night! (which was very productive!) but on the way back to my motor, i was approached by one of the residents (its a posh golf course with a private development of 4 houses, full of snobs), she was fine, asked what we were doing then flipped and said it wasnt right! usual rubbish! my daughter is a copper, i'm ringing the police! :blink: I offered her to see my permission from the course, she refused! so as a last resort i offered to show her my warrant card, she refused, so i gave up! if i shoot golf courses i always ring the 0845 number and speak to the control room, they always have an open text file just for Pest control. It saves a lot of hassle. The police are very aware of people doing pest control, its not a new thing, your more likely to get a response if you see a van driving across a golf course than people shooting on them! just my pennys worth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 i was out shooting with the BASC with their shoot permit scheme. we got there and within an hour we had a chopper above our heads. stayed there for 20 or so minutes then went. at 5K per minute to keep in the air, the police spent alot of money on me. all they got was video footage of me drinking cups of tea ! as they scared off everything, there was only one thing to do. have a brew ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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