Farmer-of-the-Futre Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Hey guys. I am thinking of getting a BSA Ultra single-shot and uve never shot a PCP before. I am curious about filling them. What sort of tanks can be used ect? also i live on farm and we have a couple of air compressors, could i use a compressor to fill it or is it better to use bottled gas? Thanks in advance Oh also any opinions on a .22 or .177 version? i will be shooting the odd rabbit and woddy mosty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pabs Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) PCPs run at 100-200bar of pressure. So your farm compressor would not work. Easiest way to fill them is from a scuba tank (300 bar is best at the biggest size you can afford-£220 ish for a 12 litre 300 bar tank as a guide) You can also buy a stirrup pump and fill the gun through hard work. About 40 odd pumps to fill from 100 bar to 200 bar on an air cylinder on average. Cost around 130 quid for a good(Hills) one. Edited February 24, 2011 by pabs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushjob Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 PCP air rifles fill to 180 - 200 bar - you'd need a specialist diving compressor to fill direct, scuba bottle is the easy way to go. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooch Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I go to collect my BSA Ultra tomorrow and I am getting the smallest bottle (3 litres), was told it will do about 15 refills and 35 shot each fill so about 525 shot. Initial cost for that bottle is £150 ready to go/use. After that it is £3 a refill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer-of-the-Futre Posted February 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Thanks, If i cant use our normal compressor i think ill purchase a decent stirrup pump, i don't mind some manual work also will i need to buy a connecter/converter to fit the valve on the gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Most PCP,s come with an adaptor but they are easy to come by anyhow-I would hold off for a tank rather than a pump-second hand prices are reasonable and tanks are often for sale on here or other shooting forums.Just out of interest-why the Ultra? lot of good guns around in that price range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer-of-the-Futre Posted February 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Oh right, well from what ive seen on the world wide web there pretty damn good, ive never had a PCP and it appeals to me, although i would prefer a multishot R10 but i dont have that sort of money for an air gun. Would you suggest anything else? no higher than £350 im afraid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooky Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 most go for 22 but after trying it i prefer .177 flatter and if the shot is in the right place it will drop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooch Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Most PCP,s come with an adaptor but they are easy to come by anyhow-I would hold off for a tank rather than a pump-second hand prices are reasonable and tanks are often for sale on here or other shooting forums.Just out of interest-why the Ultra? lot of good guns around in that price range. Not my thread but as I am getting my first rifle tomorrow, also an Ultra I didn't think you would mind if I jumped in I asked around the forums and read a lot of reviews and got it down to a few rifles. The AA 400 and 410, BSA Lightning and the Ultra. No matter how much I read and took in nothing prepared me for an actual test. The Ultra just felt right today and the lack of recoil compared to the springs pushed me more towards the PCP side. From there is was more what felt right and I was comfortable with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Thanks, If i cant use our normal compressor i think ill purchase a decent stirrup pump, i don't mind some manual work also will i need to buy a connecter/converter to fit the valve on the gun? I'm not sure if the Ultra comes with a quick-fill adapter, if it doesn't then get one as you can fill it from a bottle or pump by just pushing in a probe and not having to worry about threading a hose etc. I use a pump with no problems but there is a danger of getting moiture/dust inside with a pump. Also, I prefer .177 as the trajectory is flatter (so judging distances and holdover etc is less of a problem) and the pellet flies faster but you get fewer shots than with .22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Popper Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I go to collect my BSA Ultra tomorrow and I am getting the smallest bottle (3 litres), was told it will do about 15 refills and 35 shot each fill so about 525 shot. Initial cost for that bottle is £150 ready to go/use. After that it is £3 a refill. You're going to be making a lot of refill trips! Also, the air is going to cost you half the cost of each pellet for each shot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pabs Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 You're going to be making a lot of refill trips! Also, the air is going to cost you half the cost of each pellet for each shot... When he realizes its not big enough (525 shots go in a flash) then he'll upgrade to a bigger tank and then he'll have a great little 3litre tank to take out in the field.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Popper Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 When he realizes its not big enough (525 shots go in a flash) then he'll upgrade to a bigger tank and then he'll have a great little 3litre tank to take out in the field.. Or, he could save himself several hundred pounds and buy a springer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acid House Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Dont forget that most pumps dont have a filter and can fill your pride and joy with wet air. This can distroy your gun from the inside. Diving tanks are only filled with clean dry air so are much better than a pump. Even the filters available for pumps are a bit poor compaired to a dive shop compressor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeon Popper Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Dont forget that most pumps dont have a filter and can fill your pride and joy with wet air. This can distroy your gun from the inside. Diving tanks are only filled with clean dry air so are much better than a pump. Even the filters available for pumps are a bit poor compaired to a dive shop compressor. Another good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Oh right, well from what ive seen on the world wide web there pretty damn good, ive never had a PCP and it appeals to me, although i would prefer a multishot R10 but i dont have that sort of money for an air gun. Would you suggest anything else? no higher than £350 im afraid Keep your eyes open for a Webley Raider 10 shot. There have been a few for sale on here, and you will get one with that budjet. As for 15 refils? I had a 3lt tank, and used to get a lot more than 15 fills. more like 25 at 300 bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 A nice cheap one here. Not a Raider, but a good gun. http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/193003-air-arms-s200-with-10-shot-conversion/page__pid__1954076#entry1954076 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldfinger Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 BSA Ultra .22 great accurated gun,take bunnys 30-40 yds no problem,I use a FX 3 stage pump very easy to fill the Ulra,30-40 shots no problem when I go out bunny hunting,don't foget that these pumps were disigned to fill pcp air rifles.Ultra very good out of truck window lamping at night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litenites Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 I have the FX4 with water bleed and filter, filter is just a 177 cleaning pellet, so easily replace, it fills my s400 up without breaking into a sweat, necessary exercise for someone my age, I do use the tanks at the club though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratsmasher Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 one think to remember rather overfill then underfill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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