Billy. Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 (edited) Found this and thought it'd be worth sharing with the community of Landy owners. Might need to be at least 6 foot tall to use this, mind you... >>Link<< Edited March 17, 2011 by Billy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Found this and thought it'd be worth sharing with the community of Landy owners. Might need to be at least 6 foot tall to use this, mind you... >>Link<< Now i know the heaters in landys are cack but that just ott. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Landy heaters cack? Clearly you're talking out of your aris. Change the coolant frequently and there's no problem with the heater in a Defender. I've seen those camp stoves, can't say as I'd ever fit one myself as I cannot see the point of them and they take up valuable room. Each to their own though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveoM Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Landy heaters cack? Clearly you're talking out of your aris. Change the coolant frequently and there's no problem with the heater in a Defender. I've seen those camp stoves, can't say as I'd ever fit one myself as I cannot see the point of them and they take up valuable room. Each to their own though. This day will go down in landrover history. The day Mick miller solved the defender heater problem. Well done Mick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 (edited) Landy heaters cack? Clearly you're talking out of your aris. Change the coolant frequently and there's no problem with the heater in a Defender. I've seen those camp stoves, can't say as I'd ever fit one myself as I cannot see the point of them and they take up valuable room. Each to their own though. This day will go down in landrover history. The day Mick miller solved the defender heater problem. Well done Mick Edited March 18, 2011 by Luckyshot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 (edited) Well, provided the heater is adjusted properly, the matrix isn't blocked or the cooling system full of sludge they work perfectly well. Mine does, my mates do. In fact I get too hot with mine on full for any length of time. The problem usually lies with one of the above, my old series IIa that I drove as my only vehicle for 12 years had a **** heater to start with; the cable was partly seized, the matrix blocked and the coolant looked like it hadn't been changed, ever. It took one weekend to sort the lot out and I had a functioning, though not brilliant, heater even in an old series land rover. I can only speak as I find, generally the complaints about the heater stem from folk that have bought secondhand defenders, that have been serviced by themselves or a mate and they cut corners; why change the coolant? It looks fine to me. Why occasionally lubricate or check the control cables? It's a hassle... blah, blah, blah. Truth is the heater in a Defender is fine, provided the other items have been attended to, check the cables, flush the matrix, if its full of **** or the flow is retarded replace it, flush the whole system thoroughly, change the coolant regularly when you service or do an oil change. Most of the moaners will wonder what an oil change is though I admit and seem to believe that a Land Rover is a indestructible vehicle that never needs any maintenance, until it all goes very wrong. One friend of mine bought his Defender secondhand when it was 2 years old 12 years ago. He hasn't broken down once, his heater works, the clutch is fine, it hasn't needed anything other than a new radiator and the standard items that wear down over time; how so? Easy, it's MAINTAINED properly, not on the cheap (EDIT: And it isn't driven off-road like he's competing in the Paris-Dakar) Whilst it will never compete with a modern vehicle for warm up time (the Defender suffers from over cooling with the standard radiator if anything), they do work fine within a reasonable amount of time, but not on short runs. But then neither does my wife's brand new jap 4x4 either, although it does get much hotter, much faster. I get bored with Landy knockers, most of whom have never owned one, hence the possible over harsh initial post. Edited March 18, 2011 by mick miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olly321 Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 looks good bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 the thermostat is meant to make the heater circuit and the block coolant get up to temperature before letting the water into the rad so in effect the rad cannot overcool on a vehicle with one fitted. Its why vehicles warm up at a sensible speed I'd suggest if your defender takes ages to warm up someone has probably removed it to stop it overheating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 (edited) Nope, my thermostat works fine but thanks for the advice Alex. What I meant by Defenders suffering from over-cooling is that the the standard radiator is more than man enough for the job, no need for performance radiators and the like unless you've made a bunch of modifications. They do, in my experience, take slightly longer to heat up than a new jap 4x4 for instance, but there's not a lot in it and it gets hot enough, fast enough. Just reset the odo, started the motor and nipped up the shops. 1.8 miles heater warm, 2.2 miles hot, 2.4 miles full temperature. Yeah, they're really **** aren't they? That's from a 14 year old, regularly serviced, motor. Edited March 18, 2011 by mick miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted March 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 I get bored with Landy knockers, most of whom have never owned one, hence the possible over harsh initial post. Well said that man. I would say I'm a hypocrite, constantly jumping in on Hatsan threads, but I've owned one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Its pretty warm outside now though, when it was minus 10 outside all I saw was defenders with drivers wearing wooly hats and gloves Billy you can only comment as yours hasn't gone wrng yet this week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Alex, I had a series land rover that I had restored to working from it's use as a chicken coup with a tarpaulin over it, I had that vehicle for 12 years. It let me down once because of a botched wiring job somewhere along its life that I hadn't gotten round to attending to. When we had the snow recently I didn't wear gloves, but I did wear a hat in my Defender for the first 3 miles, then it got too hot and I had to take that and my jacket off. As I stated, the myths that surround Land Rover unreliability are largely due to poor user maintenance and corner cutting. They are not indestructible vehicles that require no maintenance, quite the opposite, they need to be driven sensibly off road and well maintained, then they don't let you down. There are certain items that should be replaced immediately however, as they are inferior and will fail at the worst time, an example of this is the plastic bleed plugs on the thermostat housing and on top of the radiator. Replace with brass as soon as possible and you won't be caught short with hot water everywhere when the plastic eventually cracks and gives way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted March 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 this week Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Exactly That from a man that admits to using cable ties to hold a number plate on. Case dismissed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 (edited) they don't call him Billy the bodger for nothing Edited March 18, 2011 by al4x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted March 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 I'll have you know that it's 6 sticky numberplate pads and cable ties now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 so still bodged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted March 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 so still bodged Skillfully held in place is what I prefer to say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Mick I've had two landrovers in the past a series three twenty years ago and a disco 300 tdi it has always been a bone of contention the heaters are noted for being poor I did not say they don't work my post was meant to be light hearted humor. ATB figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Figgy, its cool, just like the heater on a landy. Oh ********, now I'm at it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Its pretty warm outside now though, when it was minus 10 outside all I saw was defenders with drivers wearing wooly hats and gloves Thats cos we had to keep getting out to attach our tow ropes to all the jap stuff that was in the ditch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 (edited) Thats cos we had to keep getting out to attach our tow ropes to all the jap stuff that was in the ditch Edited March 19, 2011 by gixer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 I want one...Trouble is my back door would probably fall off if I put that on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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