pavman Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 (edited) Just of of interest how many PW members with working dogs keep them outside or inside edited to avoid misunderstanding of words Edited April 1, 2011 by pavman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 mines inside but I do only have the one, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 To be honest both.. Im just finsihing work on my kennel but they will be out during the day but back in home in the kitchen during the night or when someone is not about at home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Outside but myself and my father have 7 dogs between us , so inside wouldn't be practicle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Outside but myself and my father have 7 dogs between us , so inside wouldn't be practicle don't bet on it my other halfs best mate breeds flatcoats and keeps 8 in the house, ******* horrible dogs they are too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlistairB Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 My 2 are more pets than working dogs but they are still outside 24x7. If they were inside on their own during the day, i wouldn't have a house left. AB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Mine are in at the moment, but once my kennel is finished they will be out 24x7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyp Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Mine are inside, i could really do with a kennel, i think they are better outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 Inside evenings and night to around 6 months to be house trained and because my kennel isn't heated. Then out 95% of the time, with a few hours of in house socialisation one at a time a few evenings a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 don't bet on it my other halfs best mate breeds flatcoats and keeps 8 in the house, ******* horrible dogs they are too Thank god we keep ours out. Our fox hound would wreck the house, the 3 springers would get dirty walking from the kennel to the house and the terriers are smelly little ****s , but wouldn't change them all for the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster123 Posted March 31, 2011 Report Share Posted March 31, 2011 my cocker lives inside but i have a springer that lives outside . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 What makes you say that if they are inside they are a pet that works or a full working dog that lives outside. Mine are full working dogs that are inside if I am at home and outside if I have to go out. If you want to treat your dogs like a lawnmower that is in the garage until you need it then fine. Just don't knock others because of what they do :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted April 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 (edited) What makes you say that if they are inside they are a pet that works or a full working dog that lives outside. Mine are full working dogs that are inside if I am at home and outside if I have to go out. If you want to treat your dogs like a lawnmower that is in the garage until you need it then fine. Just don't knock others because of what they do :angry: MC dont get your knickers in a twist over terms and words............ no need, I nor others who keep dogs outside treat them like lawn mowers, I class any animal that lives in a house with you as in some way or % a pet manybe part pet maybe full pet, you and i have been on shoots when a guns turns up with choclit lab that lays on the carpet 95% of its life licking its nuts and he says its a working dog it could not pick a paper wrapper from the waste bin thats a full blown pet. many dogs are more to their owners familes (wifes/kids) than a working dog and we keep tham as we do to suit our own circumstances. If my labs was in the house I would not have a house left as has been stated, they are very distuctive when pups and ripped up a run let alone the soffa so for me and others its not an option. They are workers I love em to bits but dont think of them as pets. If you keep your dog inside it obviously enjoys your comapny more often and you its hence its more of a worker/ pet in my opinion. dont mean it cant work as good as anyones dog, yours do and you know well I have said what cracking dog merlin is many times It may also be about numbers say a large estate or a game keeper with lots of dogs, do they treat them like lawn mowers, nooooooooooo its friday Vodka O Clock Edited April 1, 2011 by pavman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 I am just off to walk my pets, I won't get them to work or do any training as they are pets as they are sometimes in the house and they wouldn't be able to manage it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 MC they are to an extent pets and personally I prefer it that way. I don't treat mine like a true working dog, I also wouldn't sell it on if it didn't do the job or give it a bullet when it was no longer useful. Yours I am guessing are much the same, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren 67 Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 Doyou have a dog/dogs Pavman or was you just getting ideas on where to keep yours if and when you got one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren m Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 both -- outside run in day and sleep in utility at night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 Oh no Alex, According to this thread mine are only pets as they live indoors. The fact they haven't eaten the house is that I have taken the time to house train them and not just shove them in a shed in my garden. However the fact that I have never lost a bird since having Merlin or the fact that my shooting is far better because I have a companion is irrelevant. They live indoors so they can't possibly be working dogs can they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 They also aren't labs MC its the main downside of them wrecking the house, yours are pet working dogs simply because they exist for more than working. However none of the top trainers has their dogs in the house it seems to help having them on their own, but I don't want a dog that is a zombie. Twice last season on our shoot dogs got lost, both had very good owners who do well in the trialling world. So well the dogs once they lost contact in a cover crop panicked and just stopped too scared to do anything else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajm1979 Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 I keep mine outside,however one of them usuall gets an hour or two inside on an evening so they aren't totally isolated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagsy Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 Mine's in the house. We have a kennel and run we kept our last dog in and I'd love to leave him out during the day though I'm fearful of him being nicked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted April 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 Oh no Alex, According to this thread mine are only pets as they live indoors. The fact they haven't eaten the house is that I have taken the time to house train them and not just shove them in a shed in my garden. However the fact that I have never lost a bird since having Merlin or the fact that my shooting is far better because I have a companion is irrelevant. They live indoors so they can't possibly be working dogs can they? I really dont get why you are so peeved its no slight on any dog weather they are inside or out if they are well trained and pick up thats what matters. My intent was out of interest as to what most of us do not to say one dogs home makes it better or worse than any other and i thought that was clear but perhaps wording could have been better?.... because as we all know its much to do with how much you put into training. A well trained house living dog will be a better worker than a poor trained dog kept in a run. Some folk dont have room for a run some folk (me) dont want the house trashed when they go to work which labs are apt to do even after just a short time alone. Now if i say i am sorry you took it the wrong way (and I am) may we continue.....please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davie mac Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 I keep my lab outside all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 So MC, are you trying to say that because we keep our dogs outside that we don't care for them as much? My dogs don't just get shoved in a shed, they are in runs along with other dogs so they aren't lonely. I have dogs first and foremost as working dogs, I train them as such to do what I want them to do in the field, I have absolutely no intention of house training any of my working dogs and this is why they are kept outside in a run. You and others choose to keep your working dogs inside and that is your choice; don't get ar$ey with someone for putting up a simple poll. My dogs get as much attention as your house trained dogs as they are walked constantly and not just shoved in a shed until the start of next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGD Posted April 1, 2011 Report Share Posted April 1, 2011 (edited) Define Pet? Edit to say: great post ollie Edited April 1, 2011 by WGD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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