garyb Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 Maybe if you cleaned it properly it would be less problematic? :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellebarto Posted April 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 Lol. Yeah that must be it!!! Which end of the scope does the rod go down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 Cleaning Rod? You wouldn't know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellebarto Posted April 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 Old school..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 (edited) Oh silly me 'missing the point'...Does anyone have an opinion on this (without taking the **** out of my basic zeroing ability) and more importantly suggest a decently priced rifle clamp/rest whatever you want to call it. I have some sand bag rests but they dont hold the rile anywhere near enough to let me tweak the scope dials without moving the rifle! and yes the one shot zero method works! Highlander You seem to be missing the point. This is a discussion on the one shot zero method and does/will it work not on the best way to zero. In order to test the theory of this method of "one shot zero" one has to be able to keep the rifle perfectly still and supported with the X hairs on the aim point whilst one adjusts the scope to the point of impact. I used a workmate as it was the only thing I could think of at the time i tested the theory. Although I clamped the rifle in the workmate to make the shot, hence using an HMR I later realised that one actually does not need to clamp the rifle to make the shot only to adjust the scope. By firing off one shot at the target one then only needs to clamp the rifle with the X hairs on the aim point then adjust them to the point of impact. If the rifle does not move during this phase it the scope will be zeroed spot on. I will try this out later on with my .243 to see how it works with a c/f. It's all fun you see !! Edited April 20, 2011 by Highlander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellebarto Posted April 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 There are a few on the market. This is the cheapest I've found that might be up to holding a rimmy securely http://www.solwayfeeders.com/products/added/1/rifle-bench-vice-for-zeroing-scope-p5015-c452.html# Deben and ATM do versions but are more expensive an don't look much better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 I must admit the theory is fine but in practice unless you know the rifle, shooter and ammo will group consistently it's just guess work and you could be there all day. My preferred method is to concentrate on being able to group shots, usually in 3's then, and only then, adjust the scope to match the centre point of the group. Then finer adjustments can be made if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Fox Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 (edited) I have one of these .... >>>gun rest<<< Would do what You want - mine is used only for cleaning, I am going to try the theory out with the HMR when I get a minute. Edited April 20, 2011 by Devon Fox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellebarto Posted April 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 Yeah that's the ATM I saw. Good for cleaning I guess but doesn't seem to clamp the rifle down so might not be that stable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Fox Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 Yeah that's the ATM I saw. Good for cleaning I guess but doesn't seem to clamp the rifle down so might not be that stable! It does clamp the gun very well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 surely every scope does not move in in the opposite direction of indication ? Only when you have clamped the gun and are moving the cross hairs over to where the rifle is, not the other way round as you would be when shooting conventionally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 The reticule on my scopes moves the opposite way to each click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 Right, following Highlanders suggestion of sandbags I've just come back in from the garden after a play with the .243. I put a spare scope on it and put out a sheet of paper, with a felt tip X, at 100 yds. Set up the workmate and put a sand bag on top. Bore sighted the scope and then fired one shot at the target. I then took the sandbag off the workmate and clamped the rifle in it lining up the X hairs on the target X. Then I adjusted the X hairs to line up with the point of impact, removed the rifle from the workmate put the bag back on and fired a shots which was spot on the mark. I could not believe it so fired a 3 shot group and yes they were on. Try it.........you will be amazed. A 1 shot zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tignme Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 I get through approx 600 rounds 22 250 homeloads per year checking zero every two weeks after a thorough cleaning and use the one shot method,have done for years and never had any problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 As we are talking .308 here you might want to strap it down quite tight You fire it normally, only have to clamp it to adjust the crosshairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steyrman Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Only when you have clamped the gun and are moving the cross hairs over to where the rifle is, not the other way round as you would be when shooting conventionally. Ahh got you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Got my new scope to zero on the 6.5x55 at lunchtime so will take the workmate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Don't shoot him though Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewsher500 Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 IIRC this was Richard Prior's (the stalker not the comedian before you start!) method of choice when zeroing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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