JAT Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Hi, one for the barrack room lawyers. I walk my very docile and obedient labrador in a public park on a morning and evening. As a matter of courtesy, when approaching another dog I heel him and put him on a lead. This morning I stopped with my dog on lead and by my side whilst another dog's owner tried unsuccessfully to call their dog, a large brown montrocity, which was free running, to them. The dog was about 10 yards away when it stopped, waited for its owner to get closer then launched an attack, snarling and trying to bite my dog. I kicked it twice and kept on swinging until the owner had it on a lead. They then said they were going to call the police as I had kicked their dog. My reply was for them to go ahead and I'll have them prosecuted under the dangerous dog act for attacking me and to keep their dog on a lead as they obviously couldn't control it. Luckily neither myself or dog was injured. So the question is where do I stand under the law? Is it worth calling anyone to try and prevent maybe a kid walking their dog being injured? Dog was only doing what was natural but the owner obviously doesn't have a clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 they won't report you so really best left. If you know who it is then you could report it to the local dog warden but thats dogs for you they can get the hump, he should have put it on a lead. From a legal point you kicked it while it was out of control trying to attack yours that was on a lead so no issue at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camokid Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 police dont give a **** i was biten and so was the dog. i took the dog home went back down and followed them home gave the address to the plod and they didnt want to no so if i was you like me carry a walking stick and give it a good belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickP Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 the hairdresser next to my office, her dog was attacked by a staffie and after £1000 of medical care was eventually put to sleep similar situation to yours, though the owner of the staffie, had the F off attitude, heres my address it's only a f'in dog The police wouldn't do anything as she wasn't injured, the dog wardens wouldn't do anything as she had reported it to the police and you can't have two bodies investigating it (or so she was told) the owner has no money and is claiming benefits, doesn't give two ****s about it and still lets his dog run free on the field, when they went round to chat with him to see if he would pay the vets bill he was more interested in getting back to his TV program Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAT Posted April 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 the hairdresser next to my office, her dog was attacked by a staffie and after £1000 of medical care was eventually put to sleep similar situation to yours, though the owner of the staffie, had the F off attitude, heres my address it's only a f'in dog The police wouldn't do anything as she wasn't injured, the dog wardens wouldn't do anything as she had reported it to the police and you can't have two bodies investigating it (or so she was told) the owner has no money and is claiming benefits, doesn't give two ****s about it and still lets his dog run free on the field, when they went round to chat with him to see if he would pay the vets bill he was more interested in getting back to his TV program Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAT Posted April 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Sorry cocked up previous reply. Thanks for the replies. Really******* me off this morning. Will take your advice, 'speak softly and carry a big stick'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Whilst walking my sheperd as a pup he was attacked by two dogs,one at back and other at front,he couldnt do a lot as he was on a lead,but i kicked the hell out of dog at front and it didnt flinch and i did full contact karate for donkeys years,so carry a BIG stick as kicking wont stop em. I had another dog come running up to us in the pitch black,i shouted at owner to get his dog,dont worry he wont bite..he said,when i told him what i would do if he did,he soon put him on a lead and avoided us after that. Dont worry about it,you did the right thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asa Bear Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 My neighbour's lab was attacked by a staffy which only let go when it's owner held a cigarette lighter to it's nose (vicious little ********). He carries his gutting knife with him now. God help the staffy next time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 (edited) I think you'll be fine. You were defending yourself simple as that. If a dog attacks you and you're in trouble grab it's far front leg and tip it over away from you then fall to your knees on it's ribs whilst it's going over. It won't bite (anything or anyone) again once it's hit the deck and you've held it there for a bit. You don't need a stick - they can grab a stick and take it from you. Not something to do if someones dog is being a pain, but if you're really stuck it saves your backside to worry about the consequences later EDIT... If you do it more gently the dog will live to tell the tale, yet still not be able to get up to attack you again. Kneel on it until it looks pretty messed up then allow it to recover as you leave. Edited April 21, 2011 by njc110381 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 I have use the walking stick on a terrier, i split the bl00dy stick. terrier shouted in pain and 3 kids came running over saying it was only playing. i guess i was lucky it only bite my dog a few times ay! the terrier still runs wild in the park and the kids still play football and dont watch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyb79 Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 Its astounding how many idiots like this are around with no clue about dog ownership, behaviour or even the basest level of courtesy. I had a similar situation in Kent in a country park. This park is huge with plenty of fields etc and room for everyone. I was there one day training my dog in one of the fields. My dog isn't the friendliest of dogs to other dogs who approach him, especially from behind, so I opted to work him in the furthest part of the field away from the footpaths etc. An idiot similar to the one you encountered entered the field on the far side and his large brown mongrel of a dog came bounding over towards me and my lab. I saw what was coming and put my dog on his lead and began to walk him in the opposite direction. This other dog sprinted up behind mine and jumped on him. Mine naturally span round and snarled and snapped. I shouted over to the owner that he should get his dog under control. His and the man and woman he was also with's reply came as a total shock. I was told to '**** off', as my sort wasn't wanted in the park with my 'aggressive' dog. He then decided to educate me that my dog was clearly out of control, not his. Regardless of the fact that at this point, my lab was now sat at heel just looking at me. I was also told that this park was a 'free-roam' area and that he could do what he liked. He then pointed to two poodles who were being walked together and said that 'They're not fighting, your dog wants putting down'. I didn't even bother to respond, which clearly wound him up, so he then told me he was going to 'tell the warden' and then have me arrested. I asked him what for exactly, to which he stormed off in what can only be described as a small, bald man rage. If the other dog had actually bitten mine, I would have had no hesitation in doing whatever it took to protect my dog. He is a 2 year old lab with far too much time, training, money and love invested in him for me to see any harm come to him caused by an ignorant dog owner. I have kicked someone elses dog before when they attacked my cocker spaniel, and I had a similar conversation as you did JAT, but you're within your rights to protect what is essentially your property. I know for a fact, that if a police officer came across a dog coming at them in that manner, the police would have no hesitation in deploying an armed officer to shoot it. Glad I got that off my chest! ATB JB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 OK, this actually comes from the barrack room! Don't carry what can be termed offensive weapons; wear a hat. In various locations around the world there are wild dogs; some bury their litter so the pups can't be seen from the air. This means that you can't see them either and if you stroll the wrong way across the bondu, you may be liable to be attacked. Beret off and wave it in front, dog goes for it, you pull, it pulls and you kick it in the chest breaking ribs which puncture the heart. Game over. Will not work with a trained dog, but then, a trained dog will not attack; well hopefully not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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