TaxiDriver Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Have got my new R10 FAC and want to zero scope in for optimum bunny killing range. What is the best kind of range/distance I can expect for a .22 at 31ft/lbs (I don't want to push to excess) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger955i Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Hi Mate I am interested in this too as I am expecting my owm FAC air variation through in the next week or so. ATB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted May 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Im hoping somewhere in the region of 50-60 yards will be realistic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 I know there are people who shoot off hand with FAC air and manage 70 yards no problem , but in still air, well hidden and with good support, you`ll still find 60 yards is far enough away to place a pellet in the right area of the head. Quarry never sits either still or in the perfect posture compared to paper targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linny Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 I know there are people who shoot off hand with FAC air and manage 70 yards no problem , but in still air, well hidden and with good support, you`ll still find 60 yards is far enough away to place a pellet in the right area of the head. Quarry never sits either still or in the perfect posture compared to paper targets. well said and a realistic answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted May 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Thanks for replies Nice to know I had realistic expectations and wasn't to far adrift As I said in OP I'm not after pushing the envelope to any excess, (after all I have 22lr for longer reach.) I usually shoot off of sticks or the 22lr has a bipod as I don't have a steady hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rascal_2005 Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 i have seen a 86yard kill shot BUT that was an extream shot. 60 yards should be about right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger955i Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 As with Taxi Driver 45-60 yards is the sort of ranges I will be looking to shoot over with it. Any forther I would use the .22 rim fire if safe. ATB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5shooter Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 I have a 36 ftlb airwolf that I have shot out to 100 yards and hit rocks and paper tatgets with but in a constant shooting position. Its very good for learning the wind. However I have not got the confidence to take shots on live animals over 60 yards with it as over this I feel is a bit of a pot luck situation and is more suited to rimfire. Garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 My mk1 rapid runs just under this level at around 28 ish with bis mags. @ 50 it will bughole as long as i keep the tube reasonably clean but at 60yds its on the edge of what i see as exeptable grouping. Groups of course only show what the gun can do, not how well you judge range and wind so i try to keep it to 50 ish. Zeroed at 47 yds it is within 1/2" of point of aim through to 55 yds so it doubly suits me. Shot placement is still far more critical than when using the rimfire so i avoid using it in difficult conditions, its realy more of a tool for inclined shooting or among stock as far as i am conserned not a total replacement for the rimfire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 i can place pellets within 1/2inch at 55 yards with 12ftlb on a ft circit and cant see why a rimfire can group anybetter as surely its down to the shooter. i know of people with 40ftlb zerod at 80yrds and seem to do well. i know your asking of a effective constant range to which id personally like to test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevies400 Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 70-100 yds max i would say. for the clean kill on a rabbits skull that is. :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linny Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 70-100 yds max i would say. for the clean kill on a rabbits skull that is. :yp: ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pabs Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 Decent rifle/pellet/shooter on a good calm day should be able to go out as far as 90 yrds, and expect a clean kill. I know 'cos I've done it lots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 Most .22lr subs run in the order of 100ft lb! Most people zero their .22lr at 50-60 yards! What is Possible is very different to what should routinely be expected! You must decide and be comfortable yourself about what a 31ft lb air rifle can do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linny Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 Decent rifle/pellet/shooter on a good calm day should be able to go out as far as 90 yrds, and expect a clean kill. I know 'cos I've done it lots. ( and expect a clean kill. I know 'cos I've done it lots )? YOU have very high expectations AND LOW ETHICS but you know cos youve done it lots ? and how many times have you missed lots and lots or you wont tell us that bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted May 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 (edited) Hmmm, a few differing opinions above. As previously stated I'm NOT after pushing the range to Point of Impact out excess. I think a sensible and responsible starting point would be say 55-60 yards ? This should give me a little leeway over and under this, and for much more I have the 22lr to fall back on. I have & will be putting in lots of target practice with both. Edited May 28, 2011 by TaxiDriver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willy1 Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 Most .22lr subs run in the order of 100ft lb! Most people zero their .22lr at 50-60 yards! What is Possible is very different to what should routinely be expected! You must decide and be comfortable yourself about what a 31ft lb air rifle can do! I have to agree with that, my .22lr is zeroed at 55yards with subs. IMO 90-100yards for a 31ft/lbs FAC air rifle is pushing it a bit too far. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_R Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 Hmmm, a few differing opinions above. As previously stated I'm NOT after pushing the range to Point of Impact out excess. I think a sensible and responsible starting point would be say 55-60 yards ? This should give me a little leeway over and above this, and for much more I have the 22lr to fall back on. I have & will be putting in lots of target practice with both. This is realistic for sure. Depending on your own particular setup/scope height, pellet choice etc, you will probably find the best zero is a bit over 40 yards. My own FAC air outfit zeroed best at 42 yards, and I find I don't have to do any holdover/under at all out just under 50 yards. At 50 it is 1/2 a mildot, 55 is a full mildot, 60 is almost 1 1/2 etc. (at 10x scope mag). As for windage, I was in 10MPH cross winds last week, shooting around 45 yards, and was aiming off about two inches to the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 Why would you have 30ftlb to only shoot 45 yrds when 12ftlb can do the job with less risk of accident. Ive been shooting for 17 years now and if you can place your shots within 1 inch that's enough to hunt at. I can out shoot every rimfire I go out with up to 50yrds with 12ftlb which shows its the shooter not the gun. My personal best is 32 out of 36 shots Stick to what your confident at as only you know your capability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 This is realistic for sure. Depending on your own particular setup/scope height, pellet choice etc, you will probably find the best zero is a bit over 40 yards. My own FAC air outfit zeroed best at 42 yards, and I find I don't have to do any holdover/under at all out just under 50 yards. At 50 it is 1/2 a mildot, 55 is a full mildot, 60 is almost 1 1/2 etc. (at 10x scope mag). As for windage, I was in 10MPH cross winds last week, shooting around 45 yards, and was aiming off about two inches to the side. I've known me shoot 6inchs at 50yardS off the target Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 Why would you have 30ftlb to only shoot 45 yrds when 12ftlb can do the job with less risk of accident. Ive been shooting for 17 years now and if you can place your shots within 1 inch that's enough to hunt at. I can out shoot every rimfire I go out with up to 50yrds with 12ftlb which shows its the shooter not the gun. My personal best is 32 out of 36 shots Stick to what your confident at as only you know your capability Perhaps if you had 30+ ft lb it would have been 36/36! And you mix with some lousy shooters! .22lr at 60 yards, 3 shots (admitedly a good day). Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_R Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 (edited) Why would you have 30ftlb to only shoot 45 yrds when 12ftlb can do the job with less risk of accident. Because that was the distance the rabbit came out at! :blink: Would you prefer that I saw it, walked another 20 yards back and then took the shot? I was expecting (and indeed got) more shots around 60 yards that day, I cited the 45 yards example as I had measured the speed of the wind at that time, and was offering that information as clear, empirical data. I suspect you are not really getting the point of either the original post, nor of those who have made sensible attempts to help him. Edited May 28, 2011 by john_r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 Why would you have 30ftlb to only shoot 45 yrds when 12ftlb can do the job with less risk of accident. Ive been shooting for 17 years now and if you can place your shots within 1 inch that's enough to hunt at. I can out shoot every rimfire I go out with up to 50yrds with 12ftlb which shows its the shooter not the gun. My personal best is 32 out of 36 shots Stick to what your confident at as only you know your capability 45 yards is at the limit of sub 12 ft lbs, it`s nicely inside the ability of 30+ though, so there is a world of difference. I have shot hundreds of rabbits with legal limit guns and pointed well they are fine for very short range work, 20-25 yards but much beyond that they are marginal in my view as a slight misplacement can result in lost or worse, wounded prey. FAC in contrast has far better instant kill characteristics. I would much rather use FAC for instance if I were after pigeon as body shots are still very effective but pretty much a no no with less than 12 ft lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevies400 Posted May 28, 2011 Report Share Posted May 28, 2011 (edited) ok I shot one last week at 68 yds clean head shot so lets say that was 70 yds, thus is where i get my figures from from. Also my friend hit a rabbit a little bit further than i did and it was dead in a flash. Edited May 28, 2011 by stevies400 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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