nick_c Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 Hello all, Just a quick question, I usually shoot 1/4 and 1/4 when shooting sporting with 28g, 7.5 cartridges. Tried and failed to shoot a 55 yard R to L crosser, I did not have my chokes with me, but, would putting 1/2 choke in have helped at that distance? Or is it most likely me not putting the shot in the right place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL S Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 not enough lead i use 1/4 and cyl and have no probs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 Almost certainly not the choke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 you cant say its lead if you did not see him shoot it he could have been in front for all we know.!! it is pushing it for 1/4 choke at 55yrds and certainly not cyl if you want to hit it consistantly. you will break the odd ones though. i would put 1/2 in if you want to break them consistantly. :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_c Posted June 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 Cheer's for the help. It was most likely to be me as I have not had much experience on that bird, but, maybe a change of choke might make a difference. Cheer's Nick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 55 yds is Trap gun territory, I would not use less than half, probably tighter at that range, especially if edge on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 (edited) Using open chokes on a rangey clay would lose you odd ones that get through the pattern, but if you're missing them all, it won't be the choke. I only use 1/4 and 3/8 and they hit anything I've ever come across. Edited June 11, 2011 by Chard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 Using open chokes on a rangey clay would lose you odd ones that get through the pattern, but if you're missing them all, it won't be the choke. I only use 1/4 and 3/8 and they hit anything I've ever come across. What cartridges do you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 steel :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 steel :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Really :hmm: :hmm: I was watching a You tube video of you recently at the White Gold Cup I think it was 1996, you were very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 What cartridges do you use? Eley Superbs or Lyalvale Super Comp. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 Eley Superbs or Lyalvale Super Comp. Why? Just curious if you were using decent shells....and you are. The op did not mention what he was using though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 Let`s assume that the targets were truly 55 yards away and edge on and that you were giving them the exact correct amount of lead , NO you will not consistently break them with 1/4 choke and I`d put good money on that. No good someone telling me they broke 5 out of 5 such birds witnessed by a dozen people, if 1/4 was enough for such a bird then ALL the top shot in the world wouldn`t routinely use 3/4 or Full for their shooting. Long birds like this CAN be broken with 1/4, though not convincingly, if they`re showing face which not only increases their chances of being hit but also the likleyhood of actually breaking with single pellet strikes but expecting certain breaks with a rim strike at that range is simply wishful thinking. The thing to remember is that a Full choke pattern at that range looks like a 1/4 choke pattern at 20 yards, so you are not exactly having to rely on lazer accuracy anyway. Choke up for distance . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 Top shots use full choke so they can see which edge of the clay they break - front or rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 Felt wad or fibre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 Top shots use full choke so they can see which edge of the clay they break - front or rear. Correct . If they used 1/4 they`d miss long birds altogether or get so many single strikes that reading breaks would be impossible B) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_c Posted June 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 My usual shoots do not usually put birds at long distances, so I am not used to shooting them. My usual 1/4 and 1/4 works very well indeed at the distances I am used to. I need to get around a few more grounds to get more experience. The mentioned 55 yard bird was at the classic at churchills, only my second registered shoot, where there were many birds at distances that I do not usually see them at. After reading the above reply's, I would put in 1/4 and 1/2 if I could shoot it again. I was shooting hull pro sport plasic wad, which for reasons I cant quite explain, I do not like. I will be going back to hull pro one and pro fibre when I have finished the last few hundred sport's. Cheer',s Nick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 The bird you were referring to could not be shot with 1/4. It was edge on and half would be an absolute minimum. I assume it was the White r-l on blue course? I shot that at 9am this morn. Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodit Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 55 yrds 21 gram cartridges 1/4 and 3/8 choke when (WHEN) I hit them they either split or smash no problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 You might hit the odd one but not consistently! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 If it was me, Id go and practice that stand with full choke. Using 1/4 at those ranges you will never know if you had the correct amount of lead on because the pattern is so big. Practice with the full choke, at least you will build up a sight picture when you start hitting them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the crowman Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Full Full no problems at 55yrds noble sport 7/5 28g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmicblue Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 I came across this tableShotgun choke types - effective ranges a while back - that gives an approximation of the number of pellets inside a 30" circle at 40yds for a given choke. Now we all know that there are a lot of variables too - different types of choke design (some are longer than others) and many different carts/shot size too - and wind effects as well. That said even with Full choke on a 55yd target there has got to be a reasonable chance that the clay could get through the shot string unscathed - even with 'on the money shot'. Tricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodit Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 (edited) EdSolomons You might hit the odd one but not consistently Yes your right hitting 7 or 8 out of 10 is only the odd one I supose :blink: Remember I am only using 21grams which generally means less pellet damage as they travel through the forcing cone, barrel and choke and therefore a tighter pattern compared to 28 gram and this is taken from 3 or 4 reports about lightweight cartridges in various magazines and web sites Edited June 13, 2011 by sodit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 I would love to see that. Am happy to meet up and put a measured edge on crosser at 55 yards, if you hit 7 ex 10 straight off then your days shooting is on me! Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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