Mr mac Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 hi, today on firing bottom barrel first with 30g clear pigeon cartridges the auto selector was not changing for the next shot.... had 50 cartridges through the gun last week and was fine, thats all its ever had as its new.... any ideas? thanks ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL S Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 take it back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 (edited) Sounds like your inertia switch is faulty. Worth checking yourself: Check check and triple check the gun is empty. (Please don't use snap caps) Close the gun, point it in a safe direction and pull the trigger. You'll not be able to get the second barrel to fire, as it's waiting on the inertia switch to switch the barrels. Knock the butt on the ground, by dropping it from about 4" off the ground. This will replicate the recoil. If the second barrel doesn't fire, it's the inertia switch. However, you might want to drop it a bit harder, to see if it's stuck. A little extra force may knock it into operation. Edited June 19, 2011 by Billy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 Yep not much else to say could be a number of things, but on a new gun shouldn't happen and trying to fix yourself could cause more issues! Did you manual swap to second barrel? Or fire top first? Does it swap over if you fire top first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderdude Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 I'm starting to think these new silver pig 1's are built on a very small budget.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoughton Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Poor gun mount can cause the issue you describe, as can not fully releasing the trigger after the first shot. It could be lack of familiarity with the new gun? Otherwise it could be an issue with the gun - maybe a sticky autoselector due to a small particle of debris during manufacture. These guns are selling in huge numbers (they were on back order everywhere a month back!) and reported issues to date have been very, very low. Obviously for those that have an issue it is an incredibly frustrating one - but don't go worrying that you've bought a somehow inferior quality Beretta - you haven't. If you are satisifed that it definitely not gun mount or trigger release that is the source of the problem then it's worth returning to your RFD for investigation. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 please dont drop your gun on the floor to check the inertia block works or you could crack the stock, just hit the but with the palm of your hand firmly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 (edited) please dont drop your gun on the floor to check the inertia block works or you could crack the stock, just hit the but with the palm of your hand firmly. News to me Three Silver Pigeons have survived my floor bashing and not cracked the stock. However, if a palm will do it, OP, go with that Edited June 20, 2011 by Billy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 I'm starting to think these new silver pig 1's are built on a very small budget.... As I'm sure you know. I have the SP1 Game and it's never let me down (touch wood!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderdude Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 As I'm sure you know. I have the SP1 Game and it's never let me down (touch wood!) This is true and maybe I am being quick off the mark in slighting all Silver Pig 1's. But, I also have a Hatsan which has been far more reliable and has had best part of a thousand carts through it without a jam or problem of any sort. So I understand there are good and bad out there. Personally, I won't be keeping the Silver Pig 1, it will be sold as soon as it's back from GMK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 You never know spider dude, It may not even be a problem. A lot of people on here say they get a tiny bit of brown oil coming out. I'm sure if you don't oil as much this will stop. I understand though, that when you get a new gun you want to over protect it - I know I do... It's a good thing though in a way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderdude Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 You never know spider dude, It may not even be a problem. A lot of people on here say they get a tiny bit of brown oil coming out. I'm sure if you don't oil as much this will stop. I understand though, that when you get a new gun you want to over protect it - I know I do... It's a good thing though in a way! It's not the brown oil that was the main concern it was the hole in the join between monoblock and barrel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Ouch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0145wirbelwind Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 I had a 686 game gun with an auto satety years ago with the same thing. When you push the safety catch up with your thumb. You will sometimes push the barrel selector into the middle. The gun will shoot the first shot but not the second. Hopefully this will help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laird Lugton Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 This is true and maybe I am being quick off the mark in slighting all Silver Pig 1's. But, I also have a Hatsan which has been far more reliable and has had best part of a thousand carts through it without a jam or problem of any sort. So I understand there are good and bad out there. Personally, I won't be keeping the Silver Pig 1, it will be sold as soon as it's back from GMK. Why won't you be keeping the Silver Pig when it's fixed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 What happens when you try top barrel first? Have you had the stock off? If the stock bolt goes to far in it will stop the top barrel firing. This should not happen on a new gun take it back to the dealer and get it fixed or replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr mac Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Sounds like your inertia switch is faulty. Worth checking yourself: Check check and triple check the gun is empty. (Please don't use snap caps) Close the gun, point it in a safe direction and pull the trigger. You'll not be able to get the second barrel to fire, as it's waiting on the inertia switch to switch the barrels. Knock the butt on the ground, by dropping it from about 4" off the ground. This will replicate the recoil. If the second barrel doesn't fire, it's the inertia switch. However, you might want to drop it a bit harder, to see if it's stuck. A little extra force may knock it into operation. why not use snap caps? thanks ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr mac Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 PANIC OVER! GUESS WHOS THE MUPPET??? Right.... i thought the selector switch moved over!!!!.... guess wot, i was wrong! so all along it was fine.... i hit and hit it on the floor and palm but could not get it to move then when i pulled the trigger i realised!! i fired it 5 or six times with empty barrels is this ok? thanks ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoughton Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 i fired it 5 or six times with empty barrels is this ok? Oh dear. You should never do that. You'll soon know when you try it with live cartridges - but you may have damaged the firing pins. Not a big problem to fix - but you should never dry fire without snap caps. Did you get a manual with your gun? You really should read that and familiarise yourself with the basics like this. I hope that all is OK and that you've got away with it. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr mac Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Oh dear. You should never do that. You'll soon know when you try it with live cartridges - but you may have damaged the firing pins. Not a big problem to fix - but you should never dry fire without snap caps. Did you get a manual with your gun? You really should read that and familiarise yourself with the basics like this. I hope that all is OK and that you've got away with it. Steve I followed billy's advice above not to use them? And i hit the side of the stock with the palm of my hand a few times hard to set off the switch. Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 It will probably be fine but I use them to dry fire my guns some don't and never have problems good luck don't forget you have to push the top lever to the right to open the gun after you fire it!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr mac Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 how robust are the internals as i gave it a fair good bashing on the side? ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 I followed billy's advice above not to use them? And i hit the side of the stock with the palm of my hand a few times hard to set off the switch. Ian It's the but you need to hit to simulate the recoil not the side Nearly always worth trying a few shots with switch in different positions before sending back and some people have been known to not fully remove finger after first shot and therefore gun will not fire second Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 I've shot my shotgun a million times without anything in the barrels. I wouldn't worry about breaking your gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Wouldn't worry at all about dry firing the gun. There was a discussion on this before. I often use them but have fired without too.. If they where so important Beretta would have given you a pair free with the gun, they wouldn't give you a 10 year warranty if they weren’t sure it would be problem free. If you kept sending them back because of firing pins going they would be sure to chuck in a couple snap caps… I just use them because I have them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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