Archie-fox Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Morning all ive been offerd a 22WMR but as i have a 17HMR im just thinking is there any point in haveing the 2?? is there much difference in power ect?? thanks again rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steyrman Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 (edited) Having owned both calibers i stuck with the WMR 2200fps 30 to 50g bullet has more stopping power mind you some will say there not as accurate and they were not until the newer ammo Hornady has developed its horses for courses mate and you can get WMR in semi auto too Edited August 2, 2011 by steyrman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted August 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 been offerd a ruger m77 at decent cash...i use my 17hmr alot on rabbits at night plus the odd fox at short range... but i do quite like the 22WMR... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willy1 Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Not wishing to start an arguement,but IMO .17 hmr for long range rabbits, .22wmr for rabbits AND fox. I use Hornady 30gn V-Max in my wmr,best round i've come across. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted August 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 thanks willy what are the prices for ammo for the 22wmr?? thanks again mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 If it's power that you're after and should they suit the barrel, then have a look at the 40gr RWS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 WMR has more predictable results on quarry and the highest energy of all the rimfires- but increased windages on the HMR which in itself is not great. For longer range rabbits the HMR is very much the better choice traveling far faster and flatter, yet the wmr is far more capable and predictable on bigger or tougher quarry. Little 17 grn bullets do funny things at times the extra frangibility can be both a curse and a blessing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 looking at your list of guns personally I'd give it a miss for rabbits the HMR will be better, you know what it can do and do you really want to go to a caliber that will be loopy in comparison. Then your centrefires are by far the better fox tools with the HMR being fine for the occasional close one if your ticket allows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted August 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 That's what I was thinking but I'm getting rid of some of my guns as I don't really use them so just sticking with rimfires and 22/250.... But want to try the 22WMR out for size... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 If its an itch you've got to scratch then do it but your HMR and 22-250 will do it better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted August 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Would you say it will stop a fox better up to 50 yards?? As I really don't like shooting them with my 17hmr and was out lamping last thursday and saw 5 foxes but didn't take a shot as only had the 17 all the foxes were under 70/80 yards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 have to say better is a difficult word to quantify as personally the HMR stops those foxes fine at sensible range. So the WMR will kill them just as well if you get my drift dead is dead degrees of dead are difficult to quantify Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 I wouldn't have any issue with shooting foxes at that range with a HMR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted August 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 I have shot them at that range before but I've had a runner once so I only do it if less than 50 or so yards otherwise I hit them with my 22/250....I just want to make sure I put them down if I hit them...just a personal thing really...but was thinking with a heavier bullet it will do the job more cleanly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Would you say it will stop a fox better up to 50 yards?? As I really don't like shooting them with my 17hmr and was out lamping last thursday and saw 5 foxes but didn't take a shot as only had the 17 all the foxes were under 70/80 yards... and you did the right thing in not taking a shot you were not sure of. The .22 mag would have been better but not ideal and you still might not have wanted to take the shots, all rimfires are marginal on fox. Spot on the spot placement and they all have the capability at greater range but get it wrong and its a different story, in the field stuff happens thats why we have centrefires Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted August 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 True Kent very true.... That's why I didn't take the shots and just stuck to hitting rabbits...I think il still get it and try out different rounds and see how I get on with the small vermin crows rabbits ect.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Nothing wrong really with trying to find a happy medium between a rabit and fox rifle as if you have to walk your shoot you really dont want to be having to lug 2 rifles around plus lamping gear etc ! I wish i could find something i was certain would be right for both fox and bunny, esp something i could re-load for (not to save money just so that i can fiddle lol) For now am sticking with my HMR untill iv got my mind made up and am going to treat it to re-bluing the barrel and looking out for a new stock for it, probobly something laminate and extravigant if it wont cost to much ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Nothing wrong really with trying to find a happy medium between a rabit and fox rifle as if you have to walk your shoot you really dont want to be having to lug 2 rifles around plus lamping gear etc ! I wish i could find something i was certain would be right for both fox and bunny, esp something i could re-load for (not to save money just so that i can fiddle lol) its a quandry and sadly there isn't a happy medium. The best solution is go out with a mate and take 2 rifles then everything is covered. I've shot more than a few with my HMR and have no qualms about doing it again but unless its sitting round buildings its not intentionally foxing with it. One big thing you have to think about is when you've had them close in the lamp once and they have figured out there is a person behind it you are well on the way to making them lamp shy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted August 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 I know what your saying al4x but if the WMR has a little more punch than a 17HMR I would consider taking shots upto 60/70 yards but I would still use it for rabbits but should I bump into a fox then it wouldn't be out of the question...if I'm solely out foxing then it's only the 22/250 or the 243 nothing smaller.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 whilst getting my HMR ready for tonight i have just eaten a nice cool gooseberry fool with fruit from my garden and cream of breast milk from the girl down the road..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted August 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Meaning??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Nothing wrong really with trying to find a happy medium between a rabit and fox rifle as if you have to walk your shoot you really dont want to be having to lug 2 rifles around plus lamping gear etc ! I wish i could find something i was certain would be right for both fox and bunny, esp something i could re-load for (not to save money just so that i can fiddle lol) For now am sticking with my HMR untill iv got my mind made up and am going to treat it to re-bluing the barrel and looking out for a new stock for it, probobly something laminate and extravigant if it wont cost to much ! This is why i went .22 Hornet, the HMR was a cracking longer range Rabbit round when the wind wasn't too unpredictable but personally i lost much confidence on it terminally with use on most other stuff. Too early yet to make comment on the Hornet on quarry as it aint done enough work, but it totally wipes the eye of the hmr on drop,windage and energy and for a re-loader no more expensive to feed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 (edited) Meaning??? I am in favour of the HMR and have just eaten a gooseberry fool......... I too had this thought i think its a very comman situation but i stuck with the HMR and am happy about it, sometimes i wish i had a quite rabbit gun now and again but all in the HMR is a very good bit of kit if a tad expensive to feed............ Edited August 2, 2011 by pavman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Gould Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 .17 hmr and 22/250 would be the best combination Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_in_the_midlands Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 (edited) I didn't stick with WMR for long. The relatively low power means there is very little margin for error when shooting foxes. I soon decided the foxes deserve a centrefire after having a few run off. I found the WMR bounce badly too. HMR much more fun for long range rabbits as they are flatter shooting. Edited August 2, 2011 by ian_in_the_midlands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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