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I was looking for a CZ but stumbled on a Walther KKJ which - as it's rare and unusual - I bought. It's as old as me but shoots better than me!

:lol: yes my hornet is a sako m78, it's as old as me,but definatly shoots better than me.a little pricey

on ammo,but i love it :yes: and would never sell it :no:

 

so a vote for the sako's :good:

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Which model 22 hornet would the guys who use them recommend based on pricing and accuracy. :)

 

CZ, there aint a single doubt :good: Let me tell you why Consenticity is paramount and CZ do not chamber barrel blanks as a sepperate operation. Ruger can shoot good or shoot total pants do your reserch and you will find a stack of stories telling the same. Other Europian makes might be worth looking at especially second hand but a CZ American can be had for just over £600 brand new and if you buy this model it comes with a set of CZ quality rings in the deal. They also chamber Hornet in the lux and the varmint i believe, all in thier dedicated small centrefire 527 model. Consider Ruger make thiers on a Rimfire chassis.

 

My CZ will go sub moa at 225yds with FACTORY ammo, if you search the stories on cz hornets on the net this performance is not uncommon. Remember if your a handloader this action is designed to take far greater presures than the Hornet can produce and might be the number one donnor rifle if you want to try a fancy new small centrefire project in the future, though dont wait to shoot it out as i doubt three generations could do that with the hornet :good:

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how much are the factory loads for the 22 hornet...as in how much for a box of 20 over the counter??

 

rich.

About as much as other small centrefires of the same quality. Very nice to handload and very safe pressures with lilgun this makes it fractionally cheaper than feeding a HMR, you don't need a big press just a set of wilson hand dies and a small plasic mallet BTW

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thanks kent :good:

 

ive just posted off my renewal this morning to GMP and have put a 22Hornet on as well so ill be buying one as soon as it comes back in a few weeks...have you any good home loading recipies i should be looking at??

 

and if you could p.m me list of kit that i would need to get started...ive started to read up on home loading on the net and orderd a book but its never the same as getting advice from people who do it...

 

Thanks again

 

Rich

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If you're going to get a Hornet, as already suggested, reloading is the way ahead. Excepting some of the smaller bullet choices, the advent of Li'l Gun powder has transformed this little rifle once you play about with 40grs plus. Consequently, and don't just take my word for it, you've time for a bit of research, have a look about and see if you think that a 1 in 14 barrel twist rate may be advantageous. One sure and certain fact is that it won't be a disadvantage and if you do start "fiddling" as we all do, you won't have to start looking about for a more capable barrel.

 

I have no doubt that there will be some incoming as a result of this post but just remember that CZs are not the only decent rifle on the planet. Horses for courses.

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The CZ's i have been looking at come with a 1 in 16 barrel twist. Is that better for use with lighter 30g varmint bullets. :hmm:

It's not so much a case of being better or worse as much as does the barrel configuration stabilize the bullet. Generally speaking the heavier and longer the bullet then a faster twist rate is required. Traditionally, the hornet shoots a "dumpy" round of 45grs or less. Consequently, 1 in 16 has been fine. My 18" 1 in 16 will just stabilize a 40gr Nosler but the 45gr dumpy Speer is superb. With Li'l Gun powder the traditional 5 to 600 ft/lbs at the muzzle is now turning into anything up to 800 or more with 50gr bullets albeit dumpy ones. Consequently, if you want to play ( and it's personal preference dependent upon what YOU want the rifle to achieve), a 24" by 1 in 14 is not better, just more suited.

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The fact of the two twist rates only reflects which are chambered into .223 tubes. My CZ shoots the heavy end of hornet specific bullets a dream. You don't want the 35 grn v-max etc downrange windages etc make it pants in my experiance

 

Archie,

Pm me and i will go one better and show you how and what to get when you actually get the rifle :good:

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The CZ's i have been looking at come with a 1 in 16 barrel twist. Is that better for use with lighter 30g varmint bullets. :hmm:

 

not realy its the origonal twist rate meant to stabilise 40-45grn bullets. As stated previous it shows its not chambered into a stock .223 rem barrel blank

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not realy its the origonal twist rate meant to stabilise 40-45grn bullets. As stated previous it shows its not chambered into a stock .223 rem barrel blank

 

So does that mean 1/16 twist is not good (ie poor groups) with lighter bullets or just that it performs best at 40-45grn

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So does that mean 1/16 twist is not good (ie poor groups) with lighter bullets or just that it performs best at 40-45grn

 

not particulary, Balistically they aint worth using once you get out to about normal hornet ranges the heavier higher BC 45grn bullet drops less, takes less wind, holds higher energy and is traveling faster. They would have to shoot seriously well in your gun to make them wortwhile

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