CZ550Kevlar Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 I need to get a new set of H4 main bulbs for my Terios, i have a set of the Philips X-treme 80% bulbs in my company ranger which are very good but i have been looking at these HID conversion kits you can pickup on the Evil site and wondered if they are any good and worth buying for the £30+ or just to plain steer clear and go old school with standard bulbs? Any help would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 I was chatting to my MOT tester and he said there's big changes coming to the MOT test next year. He specifically mentioned aftermarket HID kits and said they'd only be legal provided the vehicle they're fitted to has headlamp cleaning - either washers or wipers and self levelling suspension otherwise it'd be a failure. Might just be worth checking independently before spending your hard earned cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
working dog Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 I replaced my standard bulbs for Nightbreaker + and they made a big difference. Theyre not quite in the HID league but do a far better job than the two candles that I originally had as light bulbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiG_Al Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 if like PhilR says you have the required things attached to your car Clearning and leveling its the best mod you could posibly do to a car. I had some on an old vectra 7000k and it was awesome, they made night time look like day and even lit up street signs in the day light just make sure they are e marked but if the mot and vosa people have there way they will strt going on about the reflectors in the headlights next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted September 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Nope no self leveling, only manual leveling and no washers for the headlights so looks like i`m going to have to stick with nightbreakers etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajb403 Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 its the best mod you could posibly do to a car. Except to everybody else on the road who gets dazzled by your lights. If you can't see far enough in the dark to drive safely with halogens then slow down, don't put in more powerful lights just so you can drive faster. These things are one of my pet hates while driving Ashley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiG_Al Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 (edited) I had my HID's set up at a pals MOT station and it would have been impossible to dazzle anyone with them by virtue of the beam angle. I never use my car like a boy racer but I and many others belive that if you can see further and others can see YOU sooner this is a great way to reduce the risks of an accident. ajb403 - Thought you would be behind the idea if you have to do alot of country road driving at night on un-lit b roads :look: Edited September 22, 2011 by BiG_Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Except to everybody else on the road who gets dazzled by your lights. If you can't see far enough in the dark to drive safely with halogens then slow down, don't put in more powerful lights just so you can drive faster. These things are one of my pet hates while driving Ashley I am with you on this! I had my HID's set up at a pals MOT station and it would have been impossible to dazzle anyone with them by virtue of the beam angle. I never use my car like a boy racer but I and many others belive that if you can see further and others can see YOU sooner this is a great way to reduce the risks of an accident. ajb403 - Thought you would be behind the idea if you have to do alot of country road driving at night on un-lit b roads :look: even the factory ones dazzle to the point of not being able to see the oncoming traffic clearly you might be fine driving down an unlit B road with your HID but for us mere mortal driving towards you there can be a split second white out where all our low light vision is lost especially on bends! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyblanco Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 I had to give my 1st advisory on a test last week for after market Hid lamps and the hassle the guy will get next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 I also think they have to be projector lamps aswell so my friend told me, the aftermarket ones certainly do dassel you if not in projector lamps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted September 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 (edited) That`s my mind made up off to the bay to buy me some Nightbreaker plus jobbies for £13 which seem to be pretty much the same as the Phillips but half the price. EDIT- thankyou kindly for the help. Edited September 22, 2011 by CZ550Kevlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksdad Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 They already should have projector lenses, washers and self levelling :blink: Been the law for a while, just that most MOT testers don't fail them, the ones that blind oncoming traffic are where HID's have been fitted to normal 'old style' headlamps with large lenses instead of the correct projector lens: the latter look like huge blobs of glass about 3" diameter and are found on later model cars with the very slim/small size headlamps fitted My 406 Coupe: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 I was chatting to my MOT tester and he said there's big changes coming to the MOT test next year. He specifically mentioned aftermarket HID kits and said they'd only be legal provided the vehicle they're fitted to has headlamp cleaning - either washers or wipers and self levelling suspension otherwise it'd be a failure. Might just be worth checking independently before spending your hard earned cash. I heard that when considering the same thing on my old Jeep. There was also an issue with cramming all the gubbins in the space available, but that may be quite specific to that particular model of Jeep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyblanco Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 just that most MOT testers don't fail them Can't fail them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksdad Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 The rules regarding the things detailed, are in force already, have been for a long while, the guy I take all my cars to told me about it 18 months ago :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Mule Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 At the risk of being flamed: The connectors for the HID bulbs are the same as the normal tungsten ones. What is to stop you putting the standard ones in for the MOT and switch them out once you have the bit of paper in your hand? An MOT is only good until it leaves the test station anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J@mes Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 You'd need separate power supplies to do that, as the HID ignitors send a 20KV pulse in order to start the lamp burning before settling down. Might ruin a normal 12v lamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyblanco Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 The rules regarding the things detailed, are in force already, have been for a long while, the guy I take all my cars to told me about it 18 months ago :blink: Not for MOT purposes, they are being bought in as advisories in January 2012 and then as failure item in April 2012. There you go http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/technicalpenpicture3-lighting.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebygum32 Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 How come they still sell them then, on the D3 SE and above thought they are standard spec, how does headlamp washers help as all I can see that doing is cleaning the lense and making them brighter, only curious as I have D3 SE spec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J@mes Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 D3 has self levelling suspension. And the washers stop the beam pattern bring altered by debris on the lens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Years ago I fitted some 80/100w bulbs to my Ford Sierra 2.8. The heat from these bulbs crazed the reflectors in no time. Back to the normal 55/60w for me. Dont know about heat and HID though. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moor man Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 Just fitted Halfords Exreme Brilliance to my old Terios, brighter than previous bulbs (cant remember make). Cost £19, BOGOF though so not too expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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