scotland rifles Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Hi Guys looking at a load for dear and fox, i don't like to heavy a bullet so im just asking what you guys may be running. thank you bob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 I've just started using Sako 123 gn SP gameheads for roe and fox. (In fact they drop Sika just as cleanly). I discovered my rifle liked them during a target session with a mate and at £26 for 20 its hardly worth loading them. Saves the hassle of a seperate load and zero for two species. Fast, excellent energy transfer, accurate and cheap. They'll do me till I next get the urge to experiment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Hi Guys looking at a load for dear and fox, i don't like to heavy a bullet so im just asking what you guys may be running. thank you bob. Bob a fox wont mind what you shoot it with but a deer may,if you use a too lighter bullet on deer you may get too much meat damage,also if you use the wrong type of bullet you may get runners my inital bullet choice would be one that will humanley drop deer and then worry about foxes after. a 130to 150 gr bonded core bullet will do all you ask of it,pnly problem you may get if a fox is sat a good waay away you may have a lot of drop but you cant do everything with one rifle but we all know how tight you are too buy two as long as you know your drops and dont go stupid at night you wont have a problem just one question why a 308 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 150grn Sierra Gamekings, with Varget and Lapua brass. A very middle of the road 308 load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 150 grain Nosler ballistic tip 45 grain of Varget 2800 fps 1/4 inch groups at 100 yards :good: :good: Deershooter P/S I would not go down the route of a lightweight 308 been there and done it not nice and could never get it to group had it bedded 3 times still no good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Hi Guys looking at a load for dear and fox, i don't like to heavy a bullet so im just asking what you guys may be running. thank you bob. This is always a hard one, especially so with a 30 cal. Any bullet thats good for deer will punch through a broadside shot on a fox. Ok it will die but if it don't strike bone you will get a .30 hole in and a .30 hole out with less energy imparted in the middle than you might think. The best solution is shoot them in the head or lengthwise. Like i say any shot from a 308 will be lethal unless its a a bit of a clip it just depends on how quick you want them all to go down. If you fing you make a good shot into the cavity and the fox drops then gets up and runs this is presisely what just happened, without a dog dont expect to find them all but they will all be dead someplace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotland rifles Posted November 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 thank you lads. most interesting reading, and i will pay attention to all the comments. Ackley (pete) i have just sold my savage as i will not be target shooting anymore and i fancy having a 308 as well as the 243 for deer + fox, so it will come out to play from time to time and for those longer shooting areas we need to cover. i'm stalking in the morning trying to collect 2 fallow does for the chiller. bob. hope all's well Pete and thing are going well with the reworking of brass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Never shot a fox with my 308 but 150gr sierra gamekings work fine on Munties, seem to expand enough for instant kills and of course work great on anything bigger, my load is 46grs of varget, cci lr primers, Sako brass at moment,seat at oal of 2.800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 I have only shot 3 fox's with .30 all with 150gr SST all but one needed a 2nd but that was while driven boar shooting. The others were a mess both shoulder shots so as Kent mentioned they may need to hit something other than soft flesh to impart enough damage for that instant kill your after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotland rifles Posted November 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 More good info thank you again lads. i may just leave it alone and use it for stalking, bob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 My Remmy soots Vmax 110 a treat and various deer heavier bullets good. I can not recomend the 110grn for deer but for fox and other they are a good safe bullet. Pretty flat too. I only have a SPS tactical and once the fouling bolt handle was noticed touching the stock and fixed it shoots most loads close enough to not warrant scope adjustment with the exception of the rabbit load, 18gr of H4227 under a 170 Speer 30/30 bullet (shoots low only). Good luck. U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 I could suggest the .308 subsonic loads I made up for a friend, 10gr of Trail Boss and 150gr round nose. Almost silent (with a mod) and NJC110381 reckons a 180gr .308 will give you around 450ft-lb of hitting power, certainly dropped a few foxes at around 80-100yds without over penetration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyotemaster Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I am with deershooter and garyb in terms of loads. I run 47.7 Varget under a Sierra or Berger 155 gr.,WW case ,Rem primer. Accuracy is amazing and the VLD has a rep for putting game down quickly. This is running out of a 12 twist tube 26" for 2900 fps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooter Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I use 125grn SGK with H4895 most of the time. They group very well and have stopped everything from rabbits to Sika first time, with limited meat damage. They do expand, but they retain most of their weight, unless they hit a thick bone. I did use 110grn Hornady 3010, but they expanded dramatically, no matter where they hit, so I stopped using them on deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotland rifles Posted November 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 thank you Lads very very interesting reading, i like some of these loads. all i need now is to find my new 308 and ill be laughing all the way up the hill. bob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 thank you Lads very very interesting reading, i like some of these loads. all i need now is to find my new 308 and ill be laughing all the way up the hill. bob. check your wanted advert Bob I have something for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotland rifles Posted November 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 thank you pete awaiting your update bob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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