Chezney Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Basically in 2004 there were loads by me, 2005 came and there were far fewer, This year i saw 2. I saw one mid-may and 1 in June!! What are they playing at? Not only are there fewer, they are coming at the wrong time too! never seen one before or after may before! ...so i was wandering if anyone has seen them this year and if so have you seen a lot or few? I'd like to see how they are doing elsewhere, Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytie Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Basically in 2004 there were loads by me,2005 came and there were far fewer, This year i saw 2. I saw one mid-may and 1 in June!! What are they playing at? Not only are there fewer, they are coming at the wrong time too! never seen one before or after may before! ...so i was wandering if anyone has seen them this year and if so have you seen a lot or few? I'd like to see how they are doing elsewhere, Regards. If you mean Mayfly, Ephemera Danica/Vulgata, they are called mayfly from the time before the calenders changed (gregorian/julian) which means that what was may is now early june. I have fished over hatching mayfly and caught on spent gnat from may 27th through to august 24th, the last date being on the kentchurch court stretch of the Monnow in 1992. The peak Mayfly hatch on most rivers takes place in the first week of june, but as always it is dependant on the weather and regional variations. Ft Edit, forgot to say if they have been newly introduced to a fishery they can be patchy for a while as they have a 2 year nymph cycle before hatching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 No, but plenty of ******* MIDGES, I hate them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chezney Posted June 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Basically in 2004 there were loads by me, 2005 came and there were far fewer, This year i saw 2. I saw one mid-may and 1 in June!! What are they playing at? Not only are there fewer, they are coming at the wrong time too! never seen one before or after may before! ...so i was wandering if anyone has seen them this year and if so have you seen a lot or few? I'd like to see how they are doing elsewhere, Regards. If you mean Mayfly, Ephemera Danica/Vulgata, they are called mayfly from the time before the calenders changed (gregorian/julian) which means that what was may is now early june. I have fished over hatching mayfly and caught on spent gnat from may 27th through to august 24th, the last date being on the kentchurch court stretch of the Monnow in 1992. The peak Mayfly hatch on most rivers takes place in the first week of june, but as always it is dependant on the weather and regional variations. Ft Edit, forgot to say if they have been newly introduced to a fishery they can be patchy for a while as they have a 2 year nymph cycle before hatching. NO I mean May Bug! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussex lad Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 If you mean the big fat buzzing *******, i hate them always doing flybys around your head But down this way their called July bugs?? because they come out in July funny enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodmedod.one Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 If you mean the big fat buzzing *******, i hate them always doing flybys around your head But down this way their called July bugs?? because they come out in July funny enough I think Chezney is refering to the delightful critters you have so eloquently described. We old Norfolk boys call em May Bugs also, but I agree, it's too early for them yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Are these the black ones with long dangly rear legs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytie Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Are these the black ones with long dangly rear legs No I think those are hawthorn flies HD (normally april/may). Just googled Maybug and got cockchafer beetles and yes they are about now, but they are terrestrial beetles, not waterbourne. I have never heard of maybugs and cannot find them in my entymology books. I will try and find out more. Ft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodmedod.one Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Are these the black ones with long dangly rear legs No, they are big fat round ones that have no guidance systems whatsoever. The correct name is cockchafer beetles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibby Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Chez is reffering to Melolontha melolontha... or the common cockchafer... seen a few but not as many as in the past. Gibby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytie Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Chez is reffering to Melolontha melolontha... or the common cockchafer... seen a few but not as many as in the past. Gibby Gibby, lovely photo! Not a common sight but they are about on the uncultivated strips round the fields near where i live. Ft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 I thought cockchaffer was caused by rough hands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fulltimeshooter Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 I thought cockchaffer was caused by rough hands Only seen june bugs this time of year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Are these the black ones with long dangly rear legs No I think those are hawthorn flies HD (normally april/may). Just googled Maybug and got cockchafer beetles and yes they are about now, but they are terrestrial beetles, not waterbourne. I have never heard of maybugs and cannot find them in my entymology books. I will try and find out more. Ft I knew they were hawthorns but my Grandad used to call them "May blossom flies" as they tend to be about with the Hawthorn or May as it is sometimes known.The reason I asked is,we had a huge hatch of them a week or so ago and I can`t ever remember seeing as many ever,and thats why I asked as it seemed to tie in with the thread. As for a cockchafer I can honestly say I aint seen one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 plenty of those damn GREEN fly about though Taking the bairn to school this morning there was a CLOUD of them litterally so dense you could bearly see through them. We had to take a deep breath and run through them waving our hands like crazy. (must have looked like a right pair of ****** ) They got everywhere. In our hair (well in his anyway i have non) all over our arms in our faces it took about 2 minuets just to clear them off Thing is normally the house sparrows etc take care of them but there are so few about anymore they dont seem to make an impact anymore And people STILL insist on feeding them making them LAZY and eventually they will become dependant on the bird tables. DON'T feed birds except in the winter as there are plenty insects from the early part of the year and berries etc after that just help them in winter and leave them to fend for themselves from spring onward LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytie Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 [I knew they were hawthorns but my Grandad used to call them "May blossom flies" as they tend to be about with the Hawthorn or May as it is sometimes known.The reason I asked is,we had a huge hatch of them a week or so ago and I can`t ever remember seeing as many ever,and thats why I asked as it seemed to tie in with the thread. As for a cockchafer I can honestly say I aint seen one HD, I hope you had your rod with you? It can be fantastic sport when the trout are on the Hawthorn fly and unless i happen to come upon a hatch of March Browns they are normally the first dry fly fishing of the season for me. What pattern do you use for them? I have tried all sorts and now use a small black hopper which seems to work really well. Ft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 The wind was from the river towards the hawthorns sad to report I wasn`t armed with a rod either. There seems to be a few rising fish today so I may take a wander later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 I thought cockchaffer was caused by rough hands I think that was wasted on a few mate but I found it really funny..... Now wheres that neutrogena gone.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytie Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 I thought cockchaffer was caused by rough hands I think that was wasted on a few mate but I found it really funny..... Now wheres that neutrogena gone.. I just thought he was going out with the wrong type of girl! Ft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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