crosshair Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 The "staffie" I refered to was killing sheep on local farms for over a year, it was only the long range sightings that confirmed it was a staffie. When it was finally shot, the owner wanted his loveable dog back to be stuffed ?, when it was explained to him that ... ummh, there was no head left, he still wanted the body. The body was returned, the owner then had a special coffin made together with a headstone and was buried in the corner of one of his large lawns. The dog when it was home with the family was never aggresive and never showed any signs that it was a killer of sheep. The owner and his family were obviously very distraught, anyone that has a dog will know what it is like to loose a family pet, but this chap had been told it was possibly his dog earlier, but would not believe it, we can feel some sympathy for the dog, as it was the owner who was also at fault. Sheep when born, have one ambition, and that is to lie on it's back and die, they love dying and don't need any help from dogs chasing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan gun Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 a neighboring farm to one of my permissions had 30 rare breed sheep penned up and and then dogs let to go at them by some yobs from the local villadge for fun.they purposley penned them up in the corner of the feild at night just to get there kiks from it. maybe abit off topic from just dog attacks as in pets atb rg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikky Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 There are some very nasty dogs out there, who either attack children for pleasure or have some other major issue causing them to do it, sometimes it's curable, sometimes not and then yes, they do need putting down. Just because a dog attacks a sheep, which is what it's born to do, doesn't make it a child mauler! Big difference! would you be happy with leaving your kids in a room with a dog thats twice their size,knowing it has savaged another animal, i am sure all pw members would like a list of those dogs that you say...attack children for pleasure,you say sometimes its curable..guess what,,for some people those pearls of wisdom have come to late i respect your views but i think you are wrong and that is my last word on this subject mikky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 You cannot trust any dog with young children which is why, despite the pleading of my Mrs and daughter I will not have one in the house for a few years. They are wild animals that have been conditioned to trust humans and accept food and shelter from them. It only takes a millisecond for a dog to turn from a soppy household pet into a sheep/human mauling machine. You take your car into a garage to fix it's mecahnicals, you can never properly 'fix' millions of years of geneology and breeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Mikky - I don't normally agree with all your views, but that is spot on. :good: :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 You cannot trust any dog with young children which is why, despite the pleading of my Mrs and daughter I will not have one in the house for a few years. They are wild animals that have been conditioned to trust humans and accept food and shelter from them. It only takes a millisecond for a dog to turn from a soppy household pet into a sheep/human mauling machine. Yes indeed, and no amount of training will change this. Pack animals fight for position and a child can be seen as a step on the ladder. All dogs have a "bad bone", just waiting to be unleashed on something. My wife had to pull our dobie bitch off a fox recently, she had it cornered and would certainly have killed it once she had finished demolishing the fence it was hiding behind. Half hour later she's back to her old self cuddling up having her belly rubbed ( the dog ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikky Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Mikky - I don't normally agree with all your views, but that is spot on. :good: :good: cheers mate..but we are all entitled to our opinions..on both sides mikky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAD1927 Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 I've got a staffie and an English bull terrier, and due to very narrow minded people I had them temperment tested by Liverpool university. The staff got 81% and the English 96% which proves it not the breed but the way they are brought up that matters. I get so many people who look down at these dogs, when they are the most loving and loyal breeds around, fantastic breeds. About the sheep, terriers love to chase, if it runs they chase it, but I can't see the staffie attacking it as the sheep wouldnt retaliate so dog wouldnt be provoked to do anything and get bored after the Chase. So what did these so called tests involve? I bet it wasn't a field full of sheep. Yes I agree that they are very lovable creatures but put them in a situation and just like any other dog they will revert to there wild ways. I also agree with other comments alot is to do with how they are raised and trained however I have 2 jack russels that are treated like babies by my wife at home yet when i take them to a field full of rabbits they dont think twice about reverting to what they were bred for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) A dogs a dog. Have you ever seen a dog that won't chase a tennis ball if its thrown? I know that might seem a really silly example but the message is there of you look for it. If that staffie was responsible they can confim it with teeth patterns. I would say more than one dog because they tend to encourage each other where misbehaviour is concerned. But the other dog may well have returned to its owner like nothing has happened and just continued on its walk. The owner would have no idea, thinking its been off chasing rabbits. Edited January 8, 2012 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 There are some very nasty dogs out there, who either attack children for pleasure or have some other major issue causing them to do it, sometimes it's curable, sometimes not and then yes, they do need putting down. Just because a dog attacks a sheep, which is what it's born to do, doesn't make it a child mauler! Big difference! I disagree, I had a spaniel and, in her old age, she was deaf and had failing eyesight. As we do not have small children in the house, except for occasionally visiting family & friends kids, would it be right to put it down? (No is the answer, just keep children and dog apart) A dog that is allowed to attack anything without restraint is a liability in any situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlagUp Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 .... I would say more than one dog because they tend to encourage each other where misbehaviour is concerned. But the other dog may well have returned to its owner like nothing has happened and just continued on its walk. The owner would have no idea, thinking its been off chasing rabbits. The person who raised the alarm and collared the dog with his belt was, at the time, walking his own dog. It was a staffie also On the face of it, it seems unlikely a staffie would have the stamina to run down over 20 sheep in a field but then again sheep are the stupidest animals and who knows how long the rampage had been happening. Could have been at it for hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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