Shooting Tom Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 i want to sell my b425 and get a new gun, my mate has a beretta sporting multi choke. which is 40 odd years old and they are not made any more i think. so i could try to find one second hand if any one has shot one they are so nice and feel wieght less when shooting. OR other choice Beretta SV10 Perennia 3 beretta 686 silver pigeon iii beretta 687 silver pigeon beretta silver pigeon S if any one has one of the obove gun i would love to hear what you think about them. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoz82 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 I have a beretta 686 silver pigeon 1 sporter and luv it !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooting Tom Posted January 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 i looked at a 686 silver pigeon field and it didnt feel as nice as my mates 686. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoz82 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) i looked at a 686 silver pigeon field and it didnt feel as nice as my mates 686. silver pigeon sporter's are awesome !!!! Edited January 30, 2012 by jmoz82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Why sell the 425? I think we have had this discussion already the 686 in a wide range of styles and models has been around for a long time some say the 686 E from early mid eighties are the best built. The new ones are similar but not the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoz82 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) Why sell the 425? I think we have had this discussion already the 686 in a wide range of styles and models has been around for a long time some say the 686 E from early mid eighties are the best built. The new ones are similar but not the same. You can also say the same about browning they are now built by miroku and the new models are NOT THE SAME quality !!!! Why have a browning when u can have a beretta, at least a beretta is a beretta and not a fake miroku lol Edited January 29, 2012 by jmoz82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer-of-the-Futre Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 our silver pigeon 1 is great! The 2, 3, s etc are all the same but with different wood and envgravings! Your paying for looks with the other models! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoz82 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 our silver pigeon 1 is great! The 2, 3, s etc are all the same but with different wood and envgravings! Your paying for looks with the other models! +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pea shooter Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 silver pigeon 1 all the way luv it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Have you tried a few of the new models you are looking at? I only ask as I get the impression you like the feel of the older guns and if this is the case you may not be so impressed with the newer Berettas. Although I'm shooting Browning/Miroku now I've had a couple of Berettas over the last year or so and I haven't been massively impressed with the quality personally. I'm not knocking Beretta or any other manufacturer, but I'm convinced that most of them have had to design/make their products down to a price in recent years and to me it shows. I've got a 20 year old Browning 325 (also made by Miroku) and to me it's far better put together than the brand new MK38 I bought last year. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with both of them but you can see where corners have been cut to keep a lid on retail prices. Also ref Browning, I don't think they have ever actually been a manufacturer. Historically they have been a firearms designer, always licensing their products for others to manufacture (as far as I know). Good luck with your decision and I hope you find what you're after Iggy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoz82 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) Have you tried a few of the new models you are looking at? I only ask as I get the impression you like the feel of the older guns and if this is the case you may not be so impressed with the newer Berettas. Although I'm shooting Browning/Miroku now I've had a couple of Berettas over the last year or so and I haven't been massively impressed with the quality personally. I'm not knocking Beretta or any other manufacturer, but I'm convinced that most of them have had to design/make their products down to a price in recent years and to me it shows. I've got a 20 year old Browning 325 (also made by Miroku) and to me it's far better put together than the brand new MK38 I bought last year. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with both of them but you can see where corners have been cut to keep a lid on retail prices. Also ref Browning, I don't think they have ever actually been a manufacturer. Historically they have been a firearms designer, always licensing their products for others to manufacture (as far as I know). Good luck with your decision and I hope you find what you're after Iggy. I've had a new browning, it was a 2011 525 grade 1 sporter which I sold after 2 months to buy a beretta sp1 and the sp1 knocks the socks of it in every way theres nothing wrong with new beretta's trust me !!!! Edited January 29, 2012 by jmoz82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 I've had a new browning, it was a 2011 525 grade 1 sporter which I sold after 2 months to buy my sp1 and the beretta knocks the socks of it in every way theres nothing wrong with new beretta's trust me !!!! If you read my post I stated quite clearly that I wasn't knocking any brand, but thanks for the balanced view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.I.A Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 I've had a new browning, it was a 2011 525 grade 1 sporter which I sold after 2 months to buy my sp1 and the beretta knocks the socks of it in every way theres nothing wrong with new beretta's trust me !!!! Someone is properly loved up with there beretta And I don't blame you, good guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoz82 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) If you read my post I stated quite clearly that I wasn't knocking any brand, but thanks for the balanced view No probs !!!! Someone is properly loved up with there beretta And I don't blame you, good guns Lol Edited January 29, 2012 by jmoz82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooting Tom Posted January 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 thanks for the feed back, will look at a silver pigeon sporter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 HW45 :yp: :yp: :yp: :yp: :yp: :yp: :yp: :yp: :yp: :yp: :yp: :yp: :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I bought a new silver pigeon 1 two years ago and it didn't have the quality feel of the 686/682 series I had in the 80's. My friend took a fancy to it and I sold it to him without doubting my decision. A 1986 S687 m/c sporter came my way the other week and it feels so much better than the modern silver pigeon and I snapped it up. I've also got a late '70's Miroku 800S and I think that has a more solid feel to it than the modern Mirokus. Perhaps I just like old things but I do think everything is now built down to a price to maximise profit far more than they used to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
station Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Just about a year ago I nearly had a Silver Pigeon 1 - looked and felt very good. I was then very fortuanate and fell on a new 686E Sporting which was one of the last made. It just seemed to fit better and and I prefered the plainer look of the action (personal thing I know). The above plus a cracking deal on the price sealed it for me, amd I am very happy with my choice. Have a look around, you never know what is still out there and you may grab a bargain. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 The new ones arent a patch on the older ones. The old school 682 gold trap has never been bettered by Beretta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0145wirbelwind Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Why sell the 425? I think we have had this discussion already the 686 in a wide range of styles and models has been around for a long time some say the 686 E from early mid eighties are the best built. The new ones are similar but not the same. I had a 686 E and shot the **** out of it for 12 years and i still got more for it when i P/X it than i paid for it new. Sounds funny but i swopped it in for a miroku MK38 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I had a 686 E and shot the **** out of it for 12 years and i still got more for it when i P/X it than i paid for it new. Somehow i cant see the modern ones being like that. Only time will tell, Brownings prices are going up while beretta are coming down when i first looked for an O/U a brand new beretaa or browning sport was £1500 give or take, now Brownings are £1700 and beretta £1300 :hmm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoz82 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) Somehow i cant see the modern ones being like that. Only time will tell, Brownings prices are going up while beretta are coming down when i first looked for an O/U a brand new beretaa or browning sport was £1500 give or take, now Brownings are £1700 and beretta £1300 :hmm: Wrong ! Browning 525 grade 1 sporter (RRP £1500) & beretta silver pigeon 1(RRP £1580) they are the same price at most shops !!!! Edited January 31, 2012 by jmoz82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Wrong ! Browning 525 grade 1 sporter & beretta silver pigeon 1 sporter are the same price at most shops !!!! I was talking about the 725...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmoz82 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) I was talking about the 725...... [/ Sorry I don't understand your post then Cuz your comparing a price from the cheapest beretta o/u sporter £1300 shop price to a not even in shops not cheapest browning 725 £1700 RRP Edited January 31, 2012 by jmoz82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 do the silver pigs not leak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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