PatK100 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Hello there Been taking the lad to some clay shooting schools and finding the prices for lessons and coaching varies widely. What do you pay and more importantly what do you think is reasonable to pay moe importantly are they worth it ? This should start an active disscussion but I am finding that I am really going through money like water at the moment and it's all going on lessions and coaching and I am a poor pensioner :-( Would seriously value your opinions rather that sarcastic banter. Regards Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Hello there Been taking the lad to some clay shooting schools and finding the prices for lessons and coaching varies widely. What do you pay and more importantly what do you think is reasonable to pay moe importantly are they worth it ? This should start an active disscussion but I am finding that I am really going through money like water at the moment and it's all going on lessions and coaching and I am a poor pensioner :-( Would seriously value your opinions rather that sarcastic banter. Regards Pat Send a PM to 'Beretta' on here. He's your man He's in your neck of the woods too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatK100 Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) Already used him - I agree he is a top man - I like his approach and attitude towards the youngsters and boy can he shoot - but inteested in how much people pay generally hence the posting. Edited February 18, 2012 by PatK100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris B123 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Steve Nutbeam, £50 -£60 an hour including clays and one of the best in the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshLamb Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 I paid £60 for a 100 bird lesson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goo1 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 I paid £50 for 100 clay lesson last saterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fielddweller Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) About £75 for an hour inc 100 shells and clays,however i think they do a junior rate of £40 but i am not sure of the amount of shots.(guess at 50) hth Fielddweller Edited February 18, 2012 by fielddweller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 A warning on price - cheap may be carp - at least with "B" you get the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicky T Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Unfortunately it's not as easy as assuming that the more you pay for a lesson the better it will be I've had lessons from Carl Bloham, Steve Nutbeam and Beretta all of which have roughly cost the same and all of which have been absolutely first class in terms of quality and how they each explained things. I would recommend all of the aforementioned to any shooters out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Potter Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 PatK, Asking "Would seriously value your opinions rather that sarcastic banter." is virtually begging for sarcastic banter but with luck you'll only attract "sincere banter". On a serious note though, coaching or training is only ever worth what you get from it! If Coach A charges £25 an hour and you don't actually learn anything or improve at all but after an hour with Coach B at £1,000 you are are hitting birds consistently and understand why & how you are hitting them, then which is the better value for money? As I have tried to explain on another, similar, thread as a raw beginner I'm not sure coaching is the right term, I think of coaching as something that improvers need. Training is a better term for beginners, safety, safety safety first, then basics, stance, mount etc, etc. Then consistently hitting simple targets, incomer, going away, L-R & R-L crossers (some call this skeet ) My thoughts are that after these basics, say a dozen lessons the newbie should get some cartridges through their gun and only after that should the coaching proper begin. After this "running in" period the trainee could have found that he/she is an utter natural and will be in AA class within 12 months. They might find they have made some progress on their own or with the help of mates, they might find they are no better now than when they started or even have regressed :o This is were coaching starts to begin in earnest. The first two, natural & some progress will need completely different coaching techniques to the no progress/regress shooter. Whether you agree with the above or not one thing is absolutely certain and that is that like nearly everything in life, how much you pay is absolutely no guide to the quality of the service you will get! if you have found a coach who you have confidence in and under whose tutelage your scores improve then whatever he or she charges is worth it, you might find someone cheaper but only you can decide if the financial gamble of changing is worth the punt. Hope this makes sense even though it comes from someone who is self taught in as much as I'm not particularly proud to say that I've only ever had one hour's shooting tuition in my life and that was the very first time I ever picked up a shotgun. I seem to have peaked out at the top of A class but who knows were I'd be if I'd had coaching?? Good coaching might have seen me add 5+ birds to my averages, poor coaching would have done no more than considerably lighten my wallet. So with no experience to go on other than the word of others and seeing him in action (both as a shot and a coach) I'd say stick with Beretta. Potter Mr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatK100 Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Chaps Thanks for your replies - I have not meant to imply any disrepect or imply any overcharging by anyone, guess it's just money does not go as far as it did :-( I agree I think the best of the best I have seen around here is Beretta, not only does he have a very relaxed attitude - he shoots well himself which is always a good advantage, and he is very good with the youngsters. I am not unhappy with the money I am paying - just spending a bit more than I thought it would be - after all I am a poor pensioner now and I need to be careful. IMHO th lad is doing Ok and shows potential - hope others think the same. Regards Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) It's a interesting subject there ate plenty of people who will charge £50-100 + an hour for coaching How you measure the benefit is down to you pay what sort of money would you like to pay for what improvement ? Edited February 18, 2012 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COACH Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 The fact is it doesn't matter who the coach is, your not going to get anywhere much without putting far more cartridges through the gun than you can imagine after the lesson/s. No one becomes an AA class shot over night even with lessons from top coaches, it still takes bloo** years due to the human lack of memory and concentration span needed to do the necessary to shoot well in a short time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 The fact is it doesn't matter who the coach is, your not going to get anywhere much without putting far more cartridges through the gun than you can imagine after the lesson/s. No one becomes an AA class shot over night even with lessons from top coaches, it still takes bloo** years due to the human lack of memory and concentration span needed to do the necessary to shoot well in a short time. I have to disagree with you on that point about taking years to become good. If the new shooter has very good eyesight coupled with excellent hand and eye coordination, the rise to a good B class shot can be very rapid. I have a friend who started to shoot very well indeed after about six months shooting. He played cricket at county level and the only tip I ever really said to him was "Hands and eyes". Look at the clay and the eyes will lead the hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzurri Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 When I started out you never really heard of anyone coaching like they all seem to do today,sure you could get an introductory lesson or something like that,but this coaching phenomina was never really an option,well not for me anyway. Back in the day I used to keep an eye out for the Top Shots in my area,one of which was 'B',and try and follow them from stand to stand watching how they did it. I learned so much from watching these guys making it look easy,that was the nearest thing to a lesson for me and a lot of other people I suppose. If you've got the money to spend on 'Coaching' i'd say go for it,especially if you can follow up the lessons by getting plenty of lead in the air and practice what you've been taught :good: Azzurri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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