steve_b_wales Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Thanks for all this info you are sharing. As I understand it at this stage: OK to 150yds for fox using the built in IR illumination. Fitted to your 22/250 and no problems with recoil. Glare in your face from the screen can be 'dampened' with suitable filter. (plus face-veil to 'hide' yourself). No problem with reflection from moderator causing glare in scope. If this is correct then the range should be well extended by using a large lamp with IR filter? I have a Clueson lamp fitted to my vehicle shooting rack with which I illuminate the bait area. Presumably this extra IR light will increase the glare in my face? It seems that the device really needs a variable brightness control for the screen. The IR has 4 different levels of power. Obviously, the highest setting gives you the most IR output. But I have found, so far, that sometimes, the target looks better on a lower setting. When set on high, and the magnification on the scope is turned up high as well, the target looks 'white' I used to use a Blaserlite with IR filter fitted to my scope, when using a Cobra Merlin. This was an excellent set up. You can use extra IR via an external source if you wish. although the manufacturers of the NiteSite stated that there was 'no need'. I have an email off them stating that the NS can be used on a .243(with moderator) without causing damage to the camera/monitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 S_B_W - Thanks for that, it now seems that all I have to do is find the £600... Grandalf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnybasher84 Posted March 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 S_B_W - Thanks for that, it now seems that all I have to do is find the £600... Grandalf Like wise mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Does anyone in Kent have one of these units? i`m looking at one but want it to a least clearly define a rabbit at 150 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 (edited) I went out with the HMR last night and managed 8 rabbits for 9 shots, closest at around 60 yards, furthest around 90 yards. I could identify the eye shine and the outline of rabbits out to around 100+ yards but not 150+, certainly not when prone; when prone the light reflected back from the nearby grass and foliage substantially reduces the contrast in the distant portion, I can only describe this as a 'greying out' of the image. I've yet to try it from an elevated position or with added illumination, I would imagine the image would be improved. I can't fault it for my purposes though. Fox or rabbit head shot at sub 100 ranges is pretty much 90% of my nighttime shooting so that'll do for me. I use a green acetate to dim the glare, although I didn't find that a problem at all with a face veil, a stock mounted DEBEN Li-Ion battery with a home-made adapter lead. The only other mods are that I use a Cobra/ Merlin DSA instead of the rubber sleeves along with a custom insert I had turned down from Acetal in order to marry up with the NS200 camera seamlessly. Edited March 10, 2012 by mick miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 I went out with the HMR last night and managed 8 rabbits for 9 shots, closest at around 60 yards, furthest around 90 yards. I could identify the eye shine and the outline of rabbits out to around 100+ yards but not 150+, certainly not when prone; when prone the light reflected back from the nearby grass and foliage substantially reduces the contrast in the distant portion, I can only describe this as a 'greying out' of the image. I've yet to try it from an elevated position or with added illumination, I would imagine the image would be improved. I can't fault it for my purposes though. Fox or rabbit head shot at sub 100 ranges is pretty much 90% of my nighttime shooting so that'll do for me. I use a green acetate to dim the glare, although I didn't find that a problem at all with a face veil, a stock mounted DEBEN Li-Ion battery with a home-made adapter lead. The only other mods are that I use a Cobra/ Merlin DSA instead of the rubber sleeves along with a custom insert I had turned down from Acetal in order to marry up with the NS200 camera seamlessly. I agree with your findings. I suppose an infrared illuminator could be added, to 'spot' longer range targets. I'm interested in getting a DSA for mine, as I think the rubber 'hose pipes are are poor design. What would it cost to get the same sort of DSA as your's? Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckytrigger Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 I agree with your findings. I suppose an infrared illuminator could be added, to 'spot' longer range targets. I'm interested in getting a DSA for mine, as I think the rubber 'hose pipes are are poor design. What would it cost to get the same sort of DSA as your's? Steve. Hi Steve, my cobra merlin dsa cost £95 a lot of dollar but well worth it for the ns200 mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Hi Steve, my cobra merlin dsa cost £95 a lot of dollar but well worth it for the ns200 mate. Or £85 from here. Well worth it, I have the exact measurements for the custom sleeve (not necessary but a definite improvement) if you know someone handy with a lathe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greymaster Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Perhaps the monitor needs a cowl to prevent diffused reflection off grass or foliage when prone or in cover, in the absence of filter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 I'd suggest finding a way of tilting the IR/monitor pod upwards a fair bit. That solves the foreground IR splash and the radiation glare from the monitor too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Or £85 from here. Well worth it, I have the exact measurements for the custom sleeve (not necessary but a definite improvement) if you know someone handy with a lathe. Yes, I'll have to splash out and buy one. I did have one with my Cobra Merlin, but sold it all before I bought the NS200. I'd be grateful if you could give me the details of the custom sleeve, or the name of the person who did yours, that's if he would do another one. I'm more than happy to pay for the service. Time to empty my money box! Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangled99 Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Does anyone in Kent have one of these units? i`m looking at one but want it to a least clearly define a rabbit at 150 yards. I'm in Kent and would like to see one of these in the flesh before splashing out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 I'm in Kent and would like to see one of these in the flesh before splashing out. They need to get their bums into gear and sort out some sort of demo events in different areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangled99 Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 They need to get their bums into gear and sort out some sort of demo events in different areas. I think your right, though if anyone has one your quite welcome to try it out on my permissions as long as I can see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRYAN3 Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Hello Chaps. I have been reading this thread with interest. It is shocking that the makers are taking so long to come up with a screen diffuser if thats the correct term. £600 kit should not need this "baler twine" approach. Another thing I have seen no mention of is the problem of moths being attracted to the screen. Can anyone help with that? Its bad enough when lamping normally with the ability to hold the light at arms length. It can't be much fun having bugs crawling all over ones eyeball. I do fancy one but,600 quids- kinnel. Bryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 I think your right, though if anyone has one your quite welcome to try it out on my permissions as long as I can see it same goes here, i`ll buy one with a discount for holding a show evening on one of my permissions, even me with my limited marketing sense can see they would easily get their money back and more, i at least 15 people i shoot with including land owners who are interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Hello Chaps. I have been reading this thread with interest. It is shocking that the makers are taking so long to come up with a screen diffuser if thats the correct term. £600 kit should not need this "baler twine" approach. Another thing I have seen no mention of is the problem of moths being attracted to the screen. Can anyone help with that? Its bad enough when lamping normally with the ability to hold the light at arms length. It can't be much fun having bugs crawling all over ones eyeball. I do fancy one but,600 quids- kinnel. Bryan. £600 is cheap for a middle range NV. You wont get much for less apart from diy jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRYAN3 Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Cheap, my ****, Then you have to buy the dsa and fix filter gel to the screen. £600 will buy 2 42" lcd tvs OR 1 tv 1 camera and 1 dvd player. Not forgetting the rifle scope already bought. I'm sorry but,if you pay that sort of dosh that is not good enough. Bryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Cheap, my ****, Then you have to buy the dsa and fix filter gel to the screen. £600 will buy 2 42" lcd tvs OR 1 tv 1 camera and 1 dvd player. Not forgetting the rifle scope already bought. I'm sorry but,if you pay that sort of dosh that is not good enough. Bryan. You will struggle to shoot with 2 42" lcd tvs OR 1 tv 1 camera and 1 dvd player mounted on your rifle compare this to gen 3 nv like my archer and you are paying £2000+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Cheap, my ****, Then you have to buy the dsa and fix filter gel to the screen. £600 will buy 2 42" lcd tvs OR 1 tv 1 camera and 1 dvd player. Not forgetting the rifle scope already bought. I'm sorry but,if you pay that sort of dosh that is not good enough. Bryan. Supply and demand, mass production etc: How many million 42" LCD's will be sold to one NS200? UK is nothing near a major market for shooting products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckytrigger Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Hello Chaps. I have been reading this thread with interest. It is shocking that the makers are taking so long to come up with a screen diffuser if thats the correct term. £600 kit should not need this "baler twine" approach. Another thing I have seen no mention of is the problem of moths being attracted to the screen. Can anyone help with that? Its bad enough when lamping normally with the ability to hold the light at arms length. It can't be much fun having bugs crawling all over ones eyeball. I do fancy one but,600 quids- kinnel. Bryan. i haggled a bit with the gun shop owner for my ns200 and got it for a good deal less than £600. I will be glad when a proper clip on filter is available but my stop gap solution was only a couple of quid so im not complaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 They need to get their bums into gear and sort out some sort of demo events in different areas. they have/are! http://www.nitesite.co.uk/Events.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) they have/are! http://www.nitesite.co.uk/Events.aspx nothing anywhere near Kent, i say again need to get their bums in gear. Everyone knows all the money is down here. EDIT:- I have spoken with the company a few seconds ago, the lady is getting a chap called Jake to call me about the possibility of getting a demo done in KENT, she thinks that if 20-25 people are interested that is enough to generate a demo down here, once he gets out of his meeting this afternoon and calls me i will post the result of the conversation. Edited March 12, 2012 by CZ550Kevlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 They are a very helpful bunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Got a message back from Jake as promised (always a good sign), apparently they have more events planned but haven`t updated the website and said to keep an eye on it and hopefully one will be close, if there isn`t one suitable and there are enough of us then they will possibly look at organizing one, i will however give him a call today anyway as i`m impatient ad ask what he has planned in Kent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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