evo Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 hi guys,,just a quick question,,does increasing the power of an aas410 have any effect on the accuracy of the gun at all,,dont worry i know you need a FAC ,, i was just curious,,, thanks all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstone Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 I think for any airgun, there's limit to the power output you can get before you start losing accuracy. I think you'd definitely be okay up to about 30ft/lb, but can probably push it past that as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter.123 Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 A guy I know has an aas410 extra fac running at 30ftlb and it's a nice rifle, they can be pushed past that but as above I think you would lose accuracy if it was increased to much. Increasing a non fac airgun to past past 12ftlb towards 20ftlb will look like a shotgun group trust me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pabs Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 With a PCP you can increase the power as much as you want/can. It's not the power that decreases accuracy as a rule, it's the speed of the projectile that causes problems..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 pointless thread if you dont have FAC whats the point asking stick to under 12ft and then lest your bottom will be safe insted of going to jail for firearm offences and you wont need to give your underpants to bubba and call him your wife and aslo i see you do a lot off pest control mice 50 + business must be good not sin a mouse for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 pointless thread if you dont have FAC whats the point asking stick to under 12ft and then lest your bottom will be safe insted of going to jail for firearm offences and you wont need to give your underpants to bubba and call him your wife and aslo i see you do a lot off pest control mice 50 + business must be good not sin a mouse for years What he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 What he said. no, not what he said! It's worth asking the question if you don't know. the guy knows he would need FAC, but if it's a case of the increase in power limiting the accuracy, you then know it's not worth applying for the FAC and getting your gun powered up once it's cleared. If we'd all come back and said you don't lose accuracy and it gives you massive benefits in terms of range and shooting power, then you could think about applying for FAC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 sub 1000fps for any lead pellet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 no, not what he said! It's worth asking the question if you don't know. the guy knows he would need FAC, but if it's a case of the increase in power limiting the accuracy, you then know it's not worth applying for the FAC and getting your gun powered up once it's cleared. If we'd all come back and said you don't lose accuracy and it gives you massive benefits in terms of range and shooting power, then you could think about applying for FAC CHRIS you need to keep up to date you will see that EVO has just bin turned down for a shotgun cert and then week later he is asking about turning power up on s410 is it me or is he askin for trouble here . all i said was if he dont have FAC wats point of us lot telling him about the pro"s and con" s of more power thats all i was not bin funny with him just seams a pointless thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstone Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 Because this is a board for information? Not like we're telling him how to increase the power of his rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 A guy I know has an aas410 extra fac running at 30ftlb and it's a nice rifle, they can be pushed past that but as above I think you would lose accuracy if it was increased to much. Increasing a non fac airgun to past past 12ftlb towards 20ftlb will look like a shotgun group trust me! I have the above rifle. I was told that 28ft/lb is about the best to set this at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter.123 Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 How do you get on with yours Steve? I don't think Brian runs his at 30ft/lb but it's capable of doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted April 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 CHRIS you need to keep up to date you will see that EVO has just bin turned down for a shotgun cert and then week later he is asking about turning power up on s410 is it me or is he askin for trouble here . all i said was if he dont have FAC wats point of us lot telling him about the pro"s and con" s of more power thats all i was not bin funny with him just seams a pointless thread you must know more than me and the firearms dept,,i have not been turned down for an sgc jumping to conclusions there :hmm: the reason i asked about the increase in power affecting the accuracy is this...... the permission that i shoot on,THE LAND OWNER (SGC HOLDER) not me asked me that question because he is debating wether or not to apply for his fac,,for pest control,,he is debating wether to get a .22 or to get his air arms s410 power turned up but was worried it might affect its accuracy,,if it was to affect the accuracy then he will leave the aas410 as it is and apply for his fac and buy a .22,,i could not answer his question so told him i would ask the lads on here but only if thats ok with YOU,,so whats with the giving me ****, it was a simple question which i was unable to answer because i didn,t know,,not because i want to break the law . so firstly thanks to the lads who answered my question and secondly,,get your facts right and dont jump to conclusions idiot, because in my eyes and many others on here it was not a pointless question or thread i was merely asking a question that i knew the more experiencd airgunners on here could answer so i could relay it back to the LAND OWNER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted April 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 I think for any airgun, there's limit to the power output you can get before you start losing accuracy. I think you'd definitely be okay up to about 30ft/lb, but can probably push it past that as well cheers mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted April 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 Because this is a board for information? Not like we're telling him how to increase the power of his rifle. thanks bud,,as you understood i did not ask the question how do you increase the power, the question was about accuracy unlike swiss tony tried to point out for some sad pathetic reason,beats me why he behaves like that,,thanks again A guy I know has an aas410 extra fac running at 30ftlb and it's a nice rifle, they can be pushed past that but as above I think you would lose accuracy if it was increased to much. Increasing a non fac airgun to past past 12ftlb towards 20ftlb will look like a shotgun group trust me! thanks for the advice ,,cheers evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 Don't have a go at swiss.tony or myself, read your first post from someone else's point of view - you asked if turning up the power affected accuracy, "don't worry I know you need a FAC, I was just curious" - no mention that it was for someone else, I think it's reasonable to have concluded that you might be doing it for yourself illegally especially after the trouble you're having getting a SGC, never mind a FAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted April 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) Don't have a go at swiss.tony or myself, read your first post from someone else's point of view - you asked if turning up the power affected accuracy, "don't worry I know you need a FAC, I was just curious" - no mention that it was for someone else, I think it's reasonable to have concluded that you might be doing it for yourself illegally especially after the trouble you're having getting a SGC, never mind a FAC. i have never had any intention of applying for a fac,,i was merely asking a question about accuracy,not how do i increase the power,,funny how other people helped me,,is this not a forum for asking genuine questions,,there was no reason to assume i wanted to illegally turn up the power on an s410,,also swiss tony stated i have been refused my sgc,,this is not true,,no one has told me that so why was he stating this when all i did was ask a question,,he could of answered,,why do you need to know pretty, simple isnt it,,but no he sumised i was trying to break the law,,why ,, and then tells the forum i,ve been refused my cert,,why,, doesnt seem right to me is he sure he,s not a taxi driver as He quoted,,very sad if you ask me,,all this **** cos i asked a question that i was curious about greatest of respect bedwards but i dont know or want to know how to increase the power of a gun,,i would certainly leave that to the pro,s bud,,where guns are concerned thats there job not mine Edited April 12, 2012 by evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakoQuad Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 The answer is no it shouldn't have impact on accuracy. My understanding is for .22 somewhere around 26 ftlb to 30ft lb is optimum though as pellets can become unstable at speeds created by higher power levels and that will effect accuracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejay Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 I am not sure how much you can push these AAS410'S as mine is also the extra , it has been regulated and it pushes out a pretty constant 32ftlbs. I shoot out up to 70yards with it right down to about 30 yards , dont quote me on that as its not proven just my guesse , its pretty flat and no need for much hold , The day I got this my .22 sort of became obsolete . Daz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted April 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 thanks for the replies lads,i,ll pass the info on,, he will be using it upto a max of around 60yrds,,thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubshot Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 Most precharge Air Rifles are Capable of Exceeding Sub 12FP But apart from being illegal - If Not on ticket Most Air Guns do not have enough air to fire many higher powered Shots Also many Air Gun Pellets will not stay together around 30 FP Plus Mark Yes Fire Arms Ticket Allows Listed Guns to be made to Exceed Sub 12FP Rule But to own a Gun that excceds Sub 12FP not listed on ticket - Will loose you your Fire Arms Ticket and get you a Fixed Five year Holiday and life time Ban of anything that Fires a projectile BOB/R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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