Tel Time Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 Whats wrong with the escorts?? brilliant bits of kit, mine has had thousands of carts through it, things break and wear out and are replaced, its probably one of the easiest guns to strip down and doesn't cost the earth, so what's wrong with em? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 I get pleasure from having a better gun. Bit like saying a 20 year old Scoda will get you into town like a new BMW but I know which I'd rather drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 Nothing wrong with them, ideal or my needs, and budget. Bought a brand new one few months back and has rewarded me with a kill each time I've used it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samboy Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 Iv'e had my Escort about 3 yrs now with no problems. I use it for rough shooting and am not too concerned if it gets a few knocks here and there. But for my clay shooting i use a Miroku Mk 60 Gd 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 Who said there's anything wrong with them? Can't fault mine. Best fence post I've ever bought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tel Time Posted April 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 better gun? in what way? more money? better looking? i look on shotguns as work horses, a bmw will look nice but they are **** in the winter, rain etc a skoda will go anywhere, anytime and if it breaks is pretty easy to fix, even has a built in hand warmer for when your pushing it, a bmw requires a computer and £400 just to do a light bulb, i think of shotguns as workhorses, land rover or shogun, my escort looks as good, in my opinion, as any brayer, sorry berrrreettttaaaa and doesn't break as easy in my experience. multi purpose aswell!! fence post, bet it still fired when you pulled it out of the ground! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 Seems to me like you're trying to justify buying a Hatsan? Which is understandable I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 The 'problem' with them as far as I can see is that the early ones seem to have had a few quality control issues and sometimes used to jam up a lot and chokes came loose resulting in barrels bulging and exploding, giving them a reputation for dangerous problems. And of course because they are cheap and Turkish people abuse them, never clean them, don't check for the chokes coming loose and expect them to work with short cartridges that aren't designed for semi's and then they moan that they don't work reliably. There are a lot out there and a lot of happy users (including myself, I have a pump and can't fault it - and I'm not trying to justify buying it as I was given it!). Most of the Hatsan haters out there have never used or owned one but love to jump on the bandwagon because they are sheep (probably also after regretting spending double the money on another brand that does the same job?!?!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 These threads never cease to make me chuckle.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 bought a second hand 712 franchi for less than escort money as new.personally any escort i have lifted feels terrible, any one i knew had one had issues with it.guns that have spares made cheap to throw at them when ever? what does that tell you? well it speaks rubbish to me.i ll take my chance with another 712 where the choke tubes will stay tight and the gun won't fall apart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Some of the high class escorts are wary of what you stuff into them and where you stuff it I hear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Some of the high class escorts are wary of what you stuff into them and where you stuff it I hear? good one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 here we go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Some of the high class escorts are wary of what you stuff into them and where you stuff it I hear? You mean the 'super magnums'? (chambered for more than 3 1/2".......................) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Something to do with the load weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Regular maintenance and lubrication essential............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Check the ports are clear so the piston moves freely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 If she stop cycling then you'll need more than a gunsmith....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tel Time Posted April 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 this is getting erotic now!!!!!!! no, im not trying to justify buying one, already got one, it gets regular abuse but regular cleaning and gets used a lot more than my other shotguns, it just makes me laugh how quickly people forget that this is where it all starts for lots of people on budgets, 1k shotguns are out of my league until the kids leave home or until i win the lottery, even then i probably wouldn't change............. sx3 you say wifey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 nothing wrong with escorts a great starter gun and yes i have one for sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 nothing wrong with escorts a great starter gun and yes i have one for sale Because you are buying something better because you can? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 True I spent £1200 on my Beretta SP3 new a few years back, but after knocking it in the hide, i decided not to take the chance in damaging it so i went out and got a cheap knock about gun. The Escort as not let me down but now a few years on, I want and can just about get myself a Beretta.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Nothing wrong with them at all Tel Time, put cartridge in, point in the right direction, pull the trigger and hit target! Gun snobs I tell you, gun snobs! It makes me larf that people go on about how unreliable the Hatsans are and how they want a gun that doesn't let them down, then the same person on another thread openly admits to loving their Landy even though they spend so much time under the bonnet Gun snobs I tell you :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 bet this will get the mob barking its not guns nobs its a fact if they could afford a better gun they wood but they car"nt your not telling me if your had a pick of a beretta or a hatstand you wood pick the latter my bum you wood so lets get this right its gun poverty thats the problem simples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 bet this will get the mob barking its not guns nobs its a fact if they could afford a better gun they wood but they car"nt your not telling me if your had a pick of a beretta or a hatstand you wood pick the latter my bum you wood so lets get this right its gun poverty thats the problem simples Mr ST, I have to agree and disagree with you, of course affordability can come into play, but one could also simply choose not to buy an expensive gun especially if it is going to be used in the hide where you know it will get damaged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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